Underage players at the table - Page 2

foureightsuited · #11 03-10-2006, 12:51 PM

Can we say angle shoot? Let the kids be and just be happy taking their lunch money.

Georgia Avenue · #12 03-10-2006, 01:13 PM

Also: why would you want anyone to walk off with your money, giving you zippy chance of getting it back?

W. Deranged · #13 03-10-2006, 01:20 PM

Anyone who would call out an underage kid in order to gain his own advantage in his hand deserves to be banned from poker for life.

Seriously. That's awful.

I can very, very, very vaguely understand having some minor amount of moral indignation about underage gambling or something. But if you have a problem, tell the kid first, give him a chance to get up, and, if you absolutely have to be a GIANT DICK at least do it in between hands.

bav · #14 03-10-2006, 01:28 PM

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Sure, it's d1ck move, but an underage gambler is doing
something illegal and taking my money at the same time...
why should I feel bad?

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Using this to try to welsh on a bet (I ask forgiveness of the PC police for use of the term) would be supremely uncool. My question was posed as a generic intellectual exercise--what happens to the money that's there if suddenly it turns out one participant is <21?

I was thinking about underage gamblers a bit 'cause I'd just read a couple threads on here about 19yo's coming to Vegas and having no trouble sitting for hour after hour at tables. In one thread the play was at Mirage, one at Tropicana. So it's apparently pretty easy to do.

After my playful comment to the squirt to my right about calling the floor on him, the youngin' across from me said he was playing BJ the day prior and was getting "the evil eye" from a floorman the whole time. But the guy waited until he was up $600 to come over and demand ID. "So what--you woulda been ok with me playing BJ underage if I lost, but because I'm up $600 you're gonna come check?"

I see fairly few ID checks in poker rooms. Some floor people check all the time, some seem never to check. I think the waitresses do a better job checking for ID than the brushes and floors.

gilbert · #15 03-10-2006, 01:41 PM

i think it's pretty common knowledge that the poker rooms (in las vegas, at least) don't really check for ID.

it's also pretty well known that underage people shouldn't play pit games for the sole purpose of goign on a really hot run and taking some of the casino's money and then getting carded.

i don't think the casino's really care at all about the underage gambling but the underage drinking is more of a big deal. the first time i went to vegas almost a couple of years ago i was 18 and stayed at the san remo and played blackjack and craps there everyday. i would never get carded when buying chips but everytime i wanted some booze the waitress would card me.

also, at bellagio when i play poker i never get carded by a floorman or whoever, but the cocktail waitress usually always ask for ID.

GotRivered? · #16 03-10-2006, 02:01 PM

I dont think that i would ever do this to someone playing, but I would like to see it happen once. Im definately one of those players that when im hitting [censored] cards i love to see drama in the cardroom and people getting carried out for once reason or another. Its entertaining and aside from a few ppl that i meet while playing, i couldnt give a [censored] what happens to everyone else in the cardroom

onegymrat · #17 03-10-2006, 02:03 PM

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that if I'm in a big pot with him and lose, I'll call the floor over to check his ID before letting the dealer push him the pot.

[/ QUOTE ] Nice insurance policy.

fishyak · #18 03-10-2006, 02:07 PM

Everyone has to show ID for a jackpot. I wasn't at the table but observed and heard the following buzz. Turned out that both the winner and loser were WAY underage (18!!!! and 20) They lost their shares - the table stakes were still paid out. LOL.

TMTTR · #19 03-10-2006, 02:15 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Sure, it's d1ck move, but an underage gambler is doing
something illegal and taking my money at the same time...
why should I feel bad?

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You are a tool. You should not only feel bad, you should know that you are a scumbag. If you don't want the underage person playing at your table because you know that you suck and they are much better than you, then have their IDs checked immediately. You don't wait until you win a big pot. If I was the floor, I would give the young man the pot and tell him to cash out -- then I would kick you in the nuts.

bav · #20 03-10-2006, 02:19 PM

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Everyone has to show ID for a jackpot. I wasn't at the table but observed and heard the following buzz. Turned out that both the winner and loser were WAY underage (18!!!! and 20) They lost their shares - the table stakes were still paid out. LOL.

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Failing to pay the jackpot to the legal gamblers because someone at the table was underage would be grounds for a nice lawsuit. The players can't control whom the casino lets play and should not be punished for the casino's misdeeds. Hopefully the gaming control gestapo would swoop in and side with the legal players.

But yeah, the underage players are SOL. If you're gonna go to Vegas and gamble while underage, stay below the radar. Don't win any slot jackpots, don't crack the Carribean Stud jackpot, don't hit a bad beat poker jackpot, and don't go to the cage with $5K and try to cash out.