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#11
10-15-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
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[ QUOTE ] betting the river is horrible. your hand can not stand any raise there. be happy to get the free show down by checking it. fold the river in a new york second. [/ QUOTE ] what about for value? [/ QUOTE ] from what hands? 
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#12
10-15-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
Really the only point I see in betting this river is to induce a c/r. He isn't playing a worse pair this way and paying off a bet, unless he just wanted to take it down on the flop, but no realizes that the K is a sweet bluff card and he's going to c/c and get you! Pretty unlikely though, so I would not bet/fold this river.
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#13
10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] betting the river is horrible. your hand can not stand any raise there. be happy to get the free show down by checking it. fold the river in a new york second. [/ QUOTE ] what about for value? [/ QUOTE ] from what hands? [/ QUOTE ] like op said, middle pocket pairs and jacks, r line probably looks pretty weird when we bet that king. I guess i fold here since i dont c what hes calling the flop with that hed transform into a c/r bluff.
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#15
10-15-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
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My problem and his is that he is repping pretty much nothing since I think he bet every strong hand on the river. [/ QUOTE ] If he is competent then he should be checkraising every strong hand on the river.
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#16
10-15-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
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[ QUOTE ] My problem and his is that he is repping pretty much nothing since I think he bet every strong hand on the river. [/ QUOTE ] If he is competent then he should be checkraising every strong hand on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Agree, and I think he's c/cing all of his bluff catchers, so fold.
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#17
10-15-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
At the moment I thought a river valuebet was standard. I check the turn to bet the river and the river card is perfect for me since I probably doesnt have a K so he should call with a middle pair.
Anyway I didnt believe his line so I called and he had JJ.
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#18
10-15-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
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At the moment I thought a river valuebet was standard. I check the turn to bet the river and the river card is perfect for me since I probably doesnt have a K so he should call with a middle pair. Anyway I didnt believe his line so I called and he had JJ. [/ QUOTE ] that def surprises me
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#19
10-15-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: 400NL Mixing up my play, Interesting river spot
JJ, LOL
Is this a brag post? I don't like your call at all and as much as I think check-raise bluffing here is a good move, doing it with a showdown value hand like JJ is ridiculous, really ridiculous. I guess if those are the good TAG's in your game you should value bet this river 100%.
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