16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

[jnfpoker]

How can his range be massive? An unknown will know that there is a shortstack ready to go. Without a read we do not know that our opponent is capable of making a play like this. It is possible that we are up against a made flush, a flush draw, a set or two pair. If our opponent does have air he still has the possibility of splitting the pot.

I did a quick vacuum ICM calculation and if you lose this hand 35% of the time you are giving up some equity I believe.

If you believe that you have a skill edge against your opponents in this SNG there would be no question in folding this hand.

[jnfpoker]

BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.

[BradleyT]

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BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.

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I'd guess you can shove ATC here - haven't checked.

Shove any two

[jnfpoker]

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BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.

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I'd guess you can shove ATC here - haven't checked.

Shove any two

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That's so ridiculously marginal! Enjoy high variance. I guess you are correct though.

[vers]

If he is only calling QQ+, AK shoving ATC is profitable. Readless I don't know his calling range and I think I might get called by like TT/JJ here as well. If his range is TT+, AK, shoving QJo is slightly +ev. With a shorty there, I can't see any big stack calling any LOOSER than that.

I agree that shoving pre is decent, but readless, I doubt that opponent will re-raise me all in and steal my 600 raise (obviously against a good opponent I would not open myself up to a resteal like this).

Anyways, I'm not concerned about pre as I think both raising and shoving are fine, depending on quality of the opponent. Folding is ridiculous as I have a slight chip lead and a decent hand 4 handed and I should be able to pick up an easy pot here.

There's little possibility that he has 2 suited spades and would play a flopped flush like this.

Any thoughts about the flop?

[jkpoker]

shove/fold PF you shouldnt be in that situation.

Folding isnt ridiculous due to the stacks being so close and its 200bb

risk vs reward

Raise = worst thing because he could have easily shoved ATC pf and your just stuck because the stacks are even

[vers]

I doubt that most players (other then good regulars) would shove ATC against my open raise. Though I was readless, I know he wasn't on any of my tables, so not a multitabler (probably) and not a regular. Therefore, I don't think he's going to exploit my pfr. Against a regular I shove.

[Webster]

agree with the pr3 flop fold - no equity in this hand