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Old 04-11-2007, 04:11 PM
cassette cassette is offline
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Default Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

Villain is a decent tag that is very aggro from the CO + Bu and very defensive of his blinds. Loves to float and see what people do on the turn.

I having been playing TAG stealing a little less than normal because I don't like having this guy on my left.

On the turn I think Villain can only really call with a J or a FH. Is this a believable line?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $96
Button: $163.63
Hero: $117.75
BB: $125.75

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($20, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $40</font>,
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:53 PM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

meh I like it only if you have a draw plus if he has one he'll call so you'll have to secondbarrel and you don't know if he calls you down with like 99
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:01 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

I like it to teach a habitual floater a lesson. Can't just let him have the pot every time you don't make a hand. I will say though, I like it more if you raised from the CO and he floated you on the button or some such. People do really weird stuff in blind wars sometimes, and I would not be surprised to see 77-TT call this bet based on the blind war factor.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

i dont think he is folding a pair on the turn. lets see the river action
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

I'd like it alot better if you had a draw.

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Old 04-11-2007, 05:18 PM
dirtytricks dirtytricks is offline
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

Interesting, but I dont like it.

Against a player like this I like to thighten up in the SB and play good hands a little less aggressively postflop.

If he calls u light u will often have the best hand postflop and u can mix up your play with LESS continuation betting and let him bluff at it. You fire MORE 2nd barrels since he calls flop light. And u occacionally use the line you took with a strong hand and not a bluff since he pays u off!

Hope this made sense.

Generally u should off course avoid playing these players OOP if they are good. Raise him from the button!
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:47 PM
mgd_speedie mgd_speedie is offline
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

i like it a lot. it would seriously appear to me like you would have a jack, but i would've raised to more like 45 so he couldn't call with clubs or a small pair in case you were bluffing. nice thinking, and nice play. if he folds, you made a decent profit as well.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Turn c/r bluff v.s. habitual floater

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i dont think he is folding a pair on the turn. lets see the river action

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Does the river matter? Surely we're not putting any more money in if called on the turn.
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