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Old 10-16-2006, 02:17 AM
KissANDCatch KissANDCatch is offline
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Default KK vs Passive Rock - 2/4NL

This hand is deep stacked, 2/4NL against a 19/5 player on fulltilt named supercute11. He has a 1.6 agg factor over 225 hands.

I was shocked when he 4-bet me preflop and was fairly concerned about AA. I decided to just call and see what the flop brought/what his action would be. It wasn't great for me coming J high, but also could have been worse given I was almost positive he wouldnt 4 bet JJ preflop (had serious doubts that he would do it with QQ even).

When he overshoves on the flop 515 into a 370 pot, I had my hand on the call button, but just couldnt get AA out of my mind.

Thoughts?

Also, sorry, couldnt get hand convertor to work properly so hopefully you all can read this.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with :kc :kd
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $56, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $186, Hero calls.

Flop: :7s :jd :th ($376, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 is all-in $515</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $515 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $376
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

looks good
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:33 AM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

Against this villian I don't hate this fold.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

I wish I had your discipline.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

So, am I the only one who noticed that Hero's pre-flop call totally sucked if he has to fold this flop? If you guys like a fold so much, wouldn't you rather do it pre-flop? Hero doesn't even remotely have the odds to flop a set.

If I called pre-flop, I go broke on this flop.

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Old 10-16-2006, 06:55 AM
Petteri Petteri is offline
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

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If I called pre-flop, I go broke on this flop.



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Old 10-16-2006, 09:50 AM
Valueville Valueville is offline
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

"Passive Rock"

"19/5"

"I was shocked when he 4-bet me preflop"

"(had serious doubts that he would do it with QQ even)."

Well played, call flop to see if you split with kings.
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:35 PM
CallYNotRaise06 CallYNotRaise06 is offline
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock

if you called his 4bet you can not fold that flop

either fold preflop or go broke on the flop.
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:46 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock - 2/4NL

supercute has AA everytime here, unless he has the other 2 kings. He is not 4 betting QQ or worse here. If there is ever a good time to fold kings pre, this is it, but I'm still going broke here. And if you're going to call the 4 bet please just push pre.
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: KK vs Passive Rock - 2/4NL

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And if you're going to call the 4 bet please just push pre.

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just because we made a mistake pf doesnt mean we have to compound it by making another one post.
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