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Old 09-11-2006, 06:01 PM
PokerJokerAA PokerJokerAA is offline
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Default 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

Im not that good playing this deep especially with overpairs oop. I realize I should have bet more on flop, for some reason I thought pot was only $110 or so. Should I have bet turn and/or folded river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($535.30)
MP ($396)
Button ($833.55)
SB ($390)
Hero ($1229.74)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, MP folds, Button calls $44.

Flop: ($134) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $85</font>, Button calls $85.

Turn: ($304) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($304) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150.

Final Pot: $604
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:06 PM
mythrilfox mythrilfox is offline
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

Raise more preflop, maybe ~70ish... lead river since AK is such a likely candidate for you here
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

Bet turn !
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

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Bet turn !

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yeah, why did you check the turn?
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

you should bet turn here.
as played, c/c river.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

I guess its because I hate having hard decisions or getting pushed off an overpair against agg people, I didnt want to bet 225 and have him push in my face. I know its a big leak in my game, something i gotta work on.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

Fold to a turn raise? what about a minraise? And what's your plan on the river if you bet turn? It seems like betting the turn builds a big pot and can leave you with a tough decision when you really don't want one.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

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Fold to a turn raise? what about a minraise? And what's your plan on the river if you bet turn? It seems like betting the turn builds a big pot and can leave you with a tough decision when you really don't want one.

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Vs a good player fold most of the time, vs bad probably call or push. But I suck at folding overpairs
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

turn check is actually okay in most spots, but against a lot of players bet/folding the turn is a good way to go.

i'd go ahead and bet the river actually.
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL KK semi deep against aggressive tag

Well heres the results. I was befuddled when I saw villians hand, I had previously thought he was at least a semi decent TAG. He didnt even bet turn so it couldnt have been a float...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($535.30)
MP ($396)
Button ($833.55)
SB ($390)
Hero ($1229.74)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, MP folds, Button calls $44.

Flop: ($134) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $85</font>, Button calls $85.

Turn: ($304) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($304) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150.

Final Pot: $604

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kd Kh (two pair, kings and nines).
Button has 9h 8h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button wins $604. </font>
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