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Old 06-08-2007, 08:45 AM
Nikademus Nikademus is offline
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Default AK on draw heavy board

Villian is 23/5 after 43 hands, and had no showdowns. I've been playing fairly tight so far at the table.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($159.90)
<font color="#C00000">Nikademus ($212.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($212.40)</font>
Button ($311.90)
SB ($196.95)

Preflop: Nikademus is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Nikademus raises to $7</font>, MP calls $7, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Nikademus bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $16</font>, Nikademus calls $8.

Turn: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Nikademus checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Nikademus raises to $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $98</font>, Nikademus calls $38.

River: ($245) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Nikademus checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $82</font>, Nikademus calls $82.

Final Pot: $409
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:14 AM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

Tough one but i think your beat here alot. I think a fold on the turn is ok, but folding the river is a must i think.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:45 AM
lowpockets lowpockets is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

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Tough one but i think your beat here alot. I think a fold on the turn is ok, but folding the river is a must i think.

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This is horrible advice. You are calling $82 into a pot that is $327. How can you fold this, especially after the line you guys took with all of your little small bets and min-reraises. Call all day and expect to see K-10, KQ, and other [censored] enough for it to be a good call.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:49 AM
johnnyrocket johnnyrocket is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

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Tough one but i think your beat here alot. I think a fold on the turn is ok, but folding the river is a must i think.

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This is horrible advice. You are calling $82 into a pot that is $327. How can you fold this, especially after the line you guys took with all of your little small bets and min-reraises. Call all day and expect to see K-10, KQ, and other [censored] enough for it to be a good call.

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yea i agree, its amazing people can give that kind of advice, he needs to be good here 1 in 5 to make it a profitable call and this guy is saying easy fold, you will be a huge losing player if you fold trip kings with an ace kicker to this bet.

Lead more on flop, try getting it in on the turn
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:44 AM
Nikademus Nikademus is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

I had been betting 2/3 pot on the flop the entire night, and for some reason I didn't do it here. I definitely should have led out more.

When he re-raised on the turn, I considered folding, and but decided just to check-call it down.

Results:
Nikademus has As Kd (three of a kind, kings).
MP has Ts Qc (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP wins $409.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:14 AM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

Your flot bet sucks - Bet about 15 or pot it on this board OOP. As played check-raise for more and call a shove. As played call river - Villian also played this hand horribly it seems. Don't know what to make of that line - looks like a very badly played Q10 tbh.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:16 AM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

Actually it looks more like a set - 99. But you can't fold river as played with trips and top kicker.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:34 AM
MortenTA MortenTA is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

bet much more on such a wet flop.

I wouldn't put much into 43 hands..

If your bet on flop is bigger his minraise is bigger and you can go for c/r AI on turn and get value from weaker kings.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:49 AM
drewvy drewvy is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

bet more flop..12-14..standard 2/3 to 3/4 continuation bet size...you'll be able to play the hand much easier and villain will have to invest more to float or min raise you..
as played the turn is better leading IMO..on river..the call is fine hoping for KQ
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Chaos_ult Chaos_ult is offline
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Default Re: AK on draw heavy board

What do people think about bet/folding the turn?
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