400PS: Checked behind a house

[TimberBee]

Villain had been pretty quiet, at this somewhat passive table. What do you think of this line?

I usually fold this preflop, but table has been passive, as I said, and I wanted to see a flop. It's not my standard play FWIW.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($61.50)
Hero ($551.80)
Button ($74)
SB ($853.60)
BB ($352.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4, Button calls $4, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $19</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $72</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $53.

Turn: ($164) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $132</font>, BB calls $132.

River: ($428) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $428

If he had a set on the flop, he now beats me. Id fe had two pair, he probably folds to the flopraise or turnbet. If he had a flushdraw or a wrap, he's not calling anything on the river anyway. I just don't know what hand he can have that will call me, but a point can be made for that he will have sick potodds if I put in the last 150 or so...

[TheRempel]

If he had a flush or straight draw on the flop he didn't get there, but he may have a three, or he may have had a flush draw that improved to queens up. Stick it in.

[Praetor]

yeah i definitely shove here

[alavet]

my first thought was all is very solid.

but after these comments i've re-evaluated this and think we may put him all in. the pot $428 with relation to his remaining stack (about 150) and his check means he dont have full house. so you may bet there and be sure in 70% you are better with it

[thisnamedoesntfi]

He very likely has AQ8x(or similar) w/clubs. Checking quad 3's would be pretty funny.

[gordo16]

Look at the stack to pot size ratios and insta-shove this hand. You have got to get hands like 8/3, 4/3, missed draws that now have Qs and 33 and are stubborn to pay you off here. IMO this was a really bad check behind.

[Elrazor]

i think you have to value bet here - i think its a neglected part of most peoples games and i have certainly worked hard at value betting even the thinest situations. you would be amazed at what crap people call with

[terp]

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i think you have to value bet here - i think its a neglected part of most peoples games and i have certainly worked hard at value betting even the thinest situations. you would be amazed at what crap people call with

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qfmft

[greywolf]

I think it is a good rule of thumb that if someone checks to you and you hold a full house you should always bet, esp. if you feel its a marginal play.

I know there are some spots against some players where it might be a good play to check behind with a bad fh but this is not a good spot to check

[Chaoslord]

if you are extremly deep against a tricky villian who likes to check-raise river with big hands and air i would understand but this? just stick it in ur good here like 90%