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Old 08-22-2007, 08:08 PM
chezlaw chezlaw is offline
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What makes you think that God doesn't want the gospel spread to the entire human population??

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That he revealed himself to a very limited part of the population and advocated the destruction of other people is a big hint.


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Do you have any documentation to support this?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_testament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

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its just using the kill all non-believers method of getting everyone to believe.

fair enough, there's no other method with any chance at all.

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:23 PM
twoblacknines twoblacknines is offline
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how would a god be responsible for the crusades, or any of the other atrocities committed in his name? Just because people kill in the name of a deity does not mean that deity would want this.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:36 PM
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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

does this suggest that Christianity is actually a man made invention and thus only exists in region it was invented?

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This is a good objection that many top christian apologists have trouble with. According to William Lane Craig God so ordered the world that only those who would hear and believe the christian gospel were born in a time and place in history were they would be able to hear it. Hence, all the Native Americans and Asians that never heard the gospel would have never believed it anyway and are now being tormented for their sins against a holy god for all eternity.

Like all other gratuitous rationalizations of religion, it is very convenient.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:07 PM
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As I said before, using history (very selective history)to stereotype a group of people today is competely nuts. Not every Christian in the Middle ages was a blood thristy crusader, and not every Christian was this man:

http://www.ncsu.edu/midlink/dreams/francis.html

He lived during the Middle Ages, he was anti-war, and against forceful convertion of Muslims. And before you think he was an exception, he had a huge following especially after his death.

Also, has anyone looked at the list of pioneers in classical liberalism, more then half the people in the list were Christian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...cal_liberalism

What an evil bunch of c*nts!! (sarcasm)Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:16 PM
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This may or may not qualify as a response to your question, but I personally know literally dozens of Christians who have been to China in the last few years in order to share God's word. You may not hear it talked about a ton because generally speaking they can't let the Chinese government find out why they're there.

The response from most of the Christians I know is to focus their energies on the solution rather than the problem, which isn't to say that the question of why the problem exists is ignored. I don't have it handy but these sorts of questions are addressed several times in several different ways by scripture.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:35 PM
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It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:1819; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:1820; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).
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Old 08-22-2007, 11:47 PM
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Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.

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What are you talking about? For starters, all people do this, not just Americans, it's called bias. But, who is doing this in the thread? My reason for mentioning the crusades is that they were following the letter of the Law as outlined in the magical book you all point to.

If your God intentionally created entire nations of people that he knew would not believe in Him and get destroyed, then I don't want to follow his lead and neither should anyone else.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:14 AM
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It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:1819; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:1820; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).

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C'mon, those are boring passages for pussy Christians. I like these better:

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."

"...he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:27 AM
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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

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Christianity, young fellow, was in Asia, Africa and India before it even got to England. It is worldwide. As far as torture, in China, when Christians are caught practicing their religion, which they do in secret in "house churches," they are tortured, imprisoned, shot in the street and well - the standard drill.

The sanctimonious and safely ignorant among you will be stunned to learn that Christians are the most persecuted religious people on earth.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:06 AM
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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

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Christianity, young fellow, was in Asia, Africa and India before it even got to England. It is worldwide. As far as torture, in China, when Christians are caught practicing their religion, which they do in secret in "house churches," they are tortured, imprisoned, shot in the street and well - the standard drill.

The sanctimonious and safely ignorant among you will be stunned to learn that Christians are the most persecuted religious people on earth.

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Couldn't possibly be less relevant.
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