standard spot (handrange analysis)tm

[donkeykong2]

Alright, basic spot, 6 handed game utg raises, we are in the small blind. utg raises 15% of his hands preflop to 4 bb and c-bets 100% of the flops.
We put utg on: 22-aa:7%
ak-a10, kq, kj:8%
We call the raise on the sb with 9% and everyone else folds:
our range 22-aa 7% and ak,aq 2%

the flop comes 49j rainbow
We check/call: ?
We check/fold: ?
We bet: ?

[Bramsterdam]

Errrrrr I don't get it

[bubaloo]

Board: 4c 9d Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.302% 43.94% 00.36% 3891733 31912.50 { 22+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 55.698% 55.34% 00.36% 4900982 31912.50 { 22+, KJs+, KJo+ }

check/call, turn?

[donkeykong2]

i m using the method suggested in these 2 threads:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11489117
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11483469

[Bramsterdam]

But we can see our own cards right? Why do we have to work with a range for our own cards?

[donkeykong2]

you dont have to do the same thing with every hand in the range, that would be totally pointless.

the answers should look like this:
check/call: 88,1010 (1/9)
check/raise: qq,kk,aa (1.5/9)
check/fold:: 22,33,55,66,77 (3/9)
bet: 44,99,jj,ak,aq (3/9)

it actually doesnt add up to 9 because i had to discount the probablity of the pairs by 0.5 to get to the correct relation to the other hands.

[bubaloo]

do you mean splitting our ranges up, like this:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.237% 38.75% 00.49% 1486832 18792.00 { 99-22 }
Hand 1: 60.763% 60.27% 00.49% 2312824 18792.00 { 22+, KJs+, KJo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.969% 70.42% 00.55% 1627111 12741.00 { TT+ }
Hand 1: 29.031% 28.48% 00.55% 658067 12741.00 { 22+, KJs+, KJo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.957% 34.78% 02.18% 1727128 108115.50 { AQs+, KJs+, AQo+, KJo+ }
Hand 1: 63.043% 60.87% 02.18% 3022481 108115.50 { 22+, KJs+, KJo+ }

if so, i quite like this idea, as it gives you a deeper understanding of what to do with certain groups of hands.

i doubt this will catch on though, as it seems like a lot of effort. i think people would rather know there hand and apply ranges to the villain.

[donkeykong2]

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But we can see our own cards right? Why do we have to work with a range for our own cards?

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we want to analyse multiple hands at once, thats why we work with the range.