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Old 12-12-2006, 09:44 PM
drsmooth drsmooth is offline
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Default First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

First post, so I' not sure if I've got all this stuff right. A bit about me: I make all my poker money playing SnG's, invest it into ring games and then lose it all. I'm not sure why and thats why I've joined 2+2... hopefully I can give soemhing back, though I dont know what.

On to the hand. The table has a lt of limpin and calling, someone raised 4bbs earlier and got 5 callers. Te particular players I have no reads on, but it shoud be noted its not impossible they are playing rags

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.2, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.2</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.8, 3 players)


Results:
Final pot: $4.8

? Where do you guys think I'm at? What move should I make?
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

I'm checking here, I havent a clue where we're at so best to keep this pot small.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

I notice from the final pot size you did not value bet river. Why?
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

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I notice from the final pot size you did not value bet river. Why?

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you havent seen the river card.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

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I notice from the final pot size you did not value bet river. Why?

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you havent seen the river card.

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8 or diamond?
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

i dunno i havent see it either, would be a good reason to check though!
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:16 PM
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i dunno i havent see it either, would be a good reason to check though!

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I'm OK with checking turn, but most rivers I'm putting in a value bet. Just wondering.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:17 PM
drsmooth drsmooth is offline
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

I guess I messed up my post, but I'll say this wihout giving anything away

Thats not the final pot size, and more cards and action come.

Ignoring the error I made, what do we do here? Lets say we check as you suggest and face a bet? We throw kings away easily? I know discipline is important, but is checking here inducing a bluff?
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

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Ignoring the error I made, what do we do here? Lets say we check as you suggest and face a bet? We throw kings away easily? I know discipline is important, but is checking here inducing a bluff?

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I'd probably call a turn bet on this board unless I had a reason to believe I was behind.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: First post: Pocket kings on a decent flop

I dont think you're going to see many bluffs into 2 opponents. I'm not sure how easily I could throw away KK readless, I probably would to a large bet. I think it's important to check here for pot control.
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