Flopped straight, is this correct play ?

greenstack · #1 06-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Hello,

The table has been very loose, lot of limpers even calling 3xBB - 4xBB pf raises, it's early, no specific reads.

I've been confronted with this same situation before and I wonder if my line is +EV. Should I think more on survival or take my chances ?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2720
UTG+1: t5670
MP1: t4920
Hero: t3400
MP3: t2600
CO: t6020
Button: t2430
SB: t1940
BB: t7860

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero calls t60 (pot was t90), MP3 calls t60 (pot was t150), CO calls t60 (pot was t210), Button calls t60 (pot was t270), SB calls t30 (pot was t330), BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t360, 6 players)
SB bets t60, BB calls t60 (pot was t420), Hero calls t60 (pot was t480), MP3 raises to t240, CO calls t240 (pot was t780), Button calls t240 (pot was t1020), SB calls t180 (pot was t1260), BB folds, Hero raises all-in t3280, 2 folds, Button calls all-in t2130, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: t970 returned to Hero.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t-2820, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t5880)

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t-2820, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t5880)

Results:
Final pot: t-2820

mflip · #2 06-13-2007, 10:54 AM

You got all-in with the nuts. nh.

xxGreat1xx · #3 06-13-2007, 10:59 AM

i don't think you could ask for this to be any better in terms of getting it all in way ahead.

Eratosthenes · #4 06-13-2007, 11:13 AM

Of course getting all in on the flop with the nuts is +EV. The draws you fear are a flush draw and a made set. Each is a 2:1 underdog. Two pair drawing to a full house is more like a 5:1 dog. Kx diamonds has 11 outs twice = about 42% to win. Since you have the Q diamonds, he doesn't have a made straight + flush draw and is freerolling against you. Getting all your chips in here is golden.

fuzz66 · #5 06-13-2007, 11:14 AM

re-raise SB, otherwise, fine.

Mingdu · #6 06-13-2007, 11:15 AM

I'd give my left nut to have action like this in front of me in this position ...

greenstack · #7 06-13-2007, 11:59 AM

I'm still on the basic learning process (only 100 tournaments on the micro range) trying hard to improve, studying, reading books and 2+2'ing but most of the time it's frustrating to be busted without knowing if it was bad play or just bad luck.

Thank you for the insight.

fuzz66 · #8 06-13-2007, 12:04 PM

you got it all-in with the nuts, nothing more you can do except take your beat and move on to the next hand.

Sherman · #9 06-13-2007, 12:05 PM

I would have raised to protect my hand the first time it came to me. You don't have to worry about not getting action on this flop. You are going to get it. So raise and build the pot and protect your hand against the flush draw.

By "protect your hand" I mean get value out of those who won't fold the flush draw / don't price those with the flush draw in.

Also, even though you flopped the nuts, lots of bad turn cards can come. Any card that pairs the board, any diamond, or a K/Q all suck.

Sherman