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Old 06-28-2007, 10:24 AM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default TPTK nutflush draw on turn

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1002.30
CO: $346
Button: $504
SB: $639
Hero: $500

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $85</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($175, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($175, 2 players)
SB checks.

Ok my hand seams pretty good so i bet or not?
If he c/r i have to call what is the worse hand very often.
Possible hands also unliklyright now, but which gets more likely after a c/r are JJ+,AQ and some wired bluffs.

On the flop i don`t see any reason to bet either i am wa or wb. I think on the turn i must try toget somemoney in, but if he c/r i am doomed to call with most likely a big underdog,

By checking behind i may induce some bluffs on the river or bet for value.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

you dont have to call a c/r..
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

It`s a blind battle. If i bet 120. I have 300 left. So i have to be good 3/10th of the tme after river.
I outdraw via flush about 20%. I can`t fold imho. This could be KQ as well or sth random.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

I bet for value on flop - maybe he floats with a PP.
On the turn I stick it in.

I don't understand why you didn't bet the flop ?
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

I don't mind checking the flop in most situations but if I'm re-raising a SB open then I'm often betting most of my range on the flop, so I think this is a good spot to get value from medium pockets and perhaps induce a check-raise bluff. In summary, bet flop. As played, I check behind again, since I don't think he can call with much on the turn given your line.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

I doubt he floats OOP and if he c/r me on flop, i think i let it go. By checking flop i can induce some bluffs on turn.
So betting turn is bad, because of what? Miss bluff value on river or being behind too often??
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

I wouldn't have checked the flop because blind on blind I'm gong busto all day blind on blind tptk on completely dry board. Bet, and if you get c/r, call down and let him bluff. I rele hate your flop check because you're going to get c/r bluffed a lot and you can get value from any decent pocket pair thinking they might be good.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

Having checked flopped, do i bet/c all turn?
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

i don't see the point in checking the flop. turn is not a bad card for you at all. i can't see how you're not prepared to bet/shove/raise/call all in at this point. folding is not an option at this point. in future, don't check this flop.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: TPTK nutflush draw on turn

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you dont have to call a c/r..

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NEVER b/f this turn. Its either a betcall or a check behind.
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