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Old 06-25-2007, 10:25 PM
soah soah is offline
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $16</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($52, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $42</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($136, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $350</font>

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how often do you do this without a hand better than AA?
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:27 PM
DaCooler DaCooler is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL vs 1/2 NL

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $16</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($52, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $42</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($136, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $350</font>

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how often do you do this without a hand better than AA?

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occasionally i will do it with a big draw or something but just a bluff? not very often
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL vs 1/2 NL

you should spend some time thinking about hand ranges and balance

if you're winning $160 with the fourth nuts when it's good and losing $800 when it's not then it's gonna be tough to win

this line you took is pretty much the prototype of "wassup, I flopped a set" and if you've established a conservative table image it's hard to imagine many decent players sticking in another $650 just to make sure you've got it
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:03 PM
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i think you suck deepstacked
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Fire 2nd barrels.


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I now refer to 400NL as land of the retarded 2nd barrel
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:17 AM
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I haven't read through all of the hands, but I will tell you the biggest difference between the 2 limits, IMO.

You need to be aware of what your own image much more at 2/4+. You need to be aware of what you are representing, and what your hand range will appear to be to individual opponents within a hand.

At 1/2 you can probably get by entirely on 1st level thinking, and the solid winners are good hand readers. I wasn't successful at 2/4+ until I really started becoming aware of my own range/perceived range.

Certainly take a break after a night like tonight (at least from 2/4), and good luck moving forward.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:26 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL vs 1/2 NL

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Fire 2nd barrels.


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I now refer to 400NL as land of the retarded 2nd barrel

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lol
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:54 AM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL vs 1/2 NL

when u flop a set vs good players, the worst line is c/call then cr
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:59 AM
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dacooler, i have you down playing 24/13/1.5 which too loose/passive. tighten up your game.
i remember you playing pretty well regardless.

what do all the AP regulars think of cascade whitey's game?
i cant comprehend how he is a winning player with his numbers (22/6/.8) but he manages to be one of the biggest winners.
guess hes just a very good hand reader.

what did you guys think of my game? im done on ap, so feel free to flame.
im a 5ptbb/100 winner over 70 000 hands on ap between 1/2 and 3/6.

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I have wondered the very same thing about him, hard to figure out... but he wins, i remember playing against him alot at 1/2, he never really scared me but now he seems to be doing well multiabling higher.

what was your screename? where are you now?? how is it?

What do you think of the idea of putting say 4k on FT and play strictly 2/4 NL there and keep playing 1/2 on AP as im winning 8 ptbb/100.

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same as my name here. im now playing on ipoker, and with 40% rakeback its amazing.
the games on there remind me of the good old days.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:17 AM
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DaCooler, I play with you a few days a week on AP and I think you are solid. You are nothing scary and beatable, but you are a tight regular who does'nt get out of line IMO. I am the same way and it sounds like we are both profitable.

I think the 2/4 games on AP are 90% filled with regs when I have played in them. Like others have suggested in this thread, I think its a good idea to transfer money over to FTP to play 2/4 and higher.

-JB
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