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Old 07-19-2007, 07:05 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Very basic AK

No reads except that villain was 19/5 in small sample. I sometimes like to call in this spot to under-rep my hand and get more action postflop, but off course 3-betting is fine too. I didn't raise flop because I figure he has 4 or less outs if behind, and he folds his bluffs or w/e if I raise. He bet the turn pretty quick. How do you interpret this bet? If I call there will be 415 in the pot with 250 behind. Can I fold even for that price on the river? Note it is full ring.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $402.00
BB: $436.40
UTG: $103.05
UTG+1: $276.15
MP1: $773.20
MP2: $441.70
MP3: $403.50
Hero (CO): $400.00
BTN: $883.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $4.00, MP1 calls $4.00, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $16.00</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls $16.00, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $12.00, MP1 calls $12.00

Flop: ($70) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $36.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00, 2 folds

Turn: ($142) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $136.00</font>, Hero
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

I see too many players...

fold turn.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

anyhoo, disregarding pf, flop pretty std. the change in his bet sizing is very scary i think. his flop bet i think is either very strong or very weak (i think this is a decent flop to cbet with whatever hand).

with the change in his bet sizing on the turn, it generally looks like he wants the money in. its unlikely that your floating the flop (and it is possible that he could be betting larger in hopes to charge you for something like QT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or whatever). anyways, given this action, i typically dump. interested to see what others do.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:25 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Very basic AK

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isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

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Why would it be, unless you think he raises only KK+ here!?!

I dump the turn here, prolly, but I never play FR online.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

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isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

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Why would it be, unless you think he raises only KK+ here!?!

I dump the turn here, prolly, but I never play FR online.

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Cause there are 100000000 people left to act and one of them must have AA.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

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isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

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Why would it be, unless you think he raises only KK+ here!?!

I dump the turn here, prolly, but I never play FR online.

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Cause there are 100000000 people left to act and one of them must have AA.

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Old 07-19-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

Actually FR doesn't change things too much regarding PF. If you look at hand probabilities, it is still very likely that AK is not facing KK/AA in this spot.
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

I can't call the turn. With his range and bet into multiple players on the flop, I can't see you being better than choping with AK.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Very basic AK

Interesting line to note for a donk to take with a FD.

And I don't really always 3bet AK FR against PFR5 folks unless they also are weak-tight on the flop and will fold JJ on a low board because they put me on KK+.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:08 PM
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tiny raise preflop followed by small flop bet into multiway pot followed by the big turn bet really makes me want to fold
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