Razz .50/1 - betting 6th and 7th

[adanthar]

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If he never bluff-raises then it's a bet-fold, no? Even if he bluff raises fairly a bit you make more bet-folding.

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bet/folding seventh here is like setting the appropriate amount of money on fire

[RustyBrooks]

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If he never bluff-raises then it's a bet-fold, no? Even if he bluff raises fairly a bit you make more bet-folding.

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bet/folding seventh here is like setting the appropriate amount of money on fire

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If your opponent will NEVER raise as a bluff on the end then bet/fold is the obvious play. I don't believe such an opponent really exists.

The equilibrium point where folding is the same as calling is something like .2/15 which is about 1.3%. I don't treat razz like NLHE where you can give your opponent at least a 10% chance of bluffing but I can easily think that most razz opponents are capable of bluffing 1.3% of the time.

[Andy B]

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I don't believe such an opponent really exists.

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So why even bring it up? Bet/folding the river would be absurd.

[Praxising]

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Bet/folding the river would be absurd.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree, not even an option, tho' when he bet I was about 90% sure he'd sucked out on me. But I don't agree this is boardlock:

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6th Street - (6.30 BB)

Hero: 2 5 4 A 8 9___bets___raises
Seat 5: xx xx J 9 6 2___raises___calls


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I know definitions of words evolve and are sometimes situational. But while this display means I have him beaten on 6th, in my lexicon "boardlock" is when he <u>cannot</u> win on the river regardless of what card he gets. So, J96T would be boardlock, because the best possible hand he can make is a 9 hi. With the board he had, he could still make a 6. Which he did.

[Andy B]

I think that when everybody else uses the term "board-lock," they mean that the other guy currently cannot have you beaten. You have a board-lock on sixth, and as such should pump as much money into the pot as humanly possible.

[iStackBooks]

Bet/folding here is gross but only because our opponent might be bad enough to raise with a worse hand. Personally, I think that there are tons of players who NEVER raise on a bluff here... i'm one of them - especially in a micro game.

[Sp00n]

Nobody folds anything at Razz, bluffing here is a huge mistake vs 99.9999999999% of players.

[ChipsAhoya]

Prax, your definition of boardlocked is drawing dead, then. It's helpful to distinguish between the two...

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[RustyBrooks]

This comes up all the time, what is considered the standard definition? I think of it as, I have his best hole cards beat right now.

[Praxising]

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Prax, your definition of boardlocked is drawing dead, then. It's helpful to distinguish between the two...

-ChipsAhoya

[/ QUOTE ]It's the definition I got out of the books I read when I started to play - but words and meanings evolve, so now, I think, people use "boardlock" when they mean "I know I have the best hand right now." Classically, it did mean drawing dead.

If the convention is now to mean "best right now" I'm fine with that. But I'm not sure that's standard usage in the wider poker community. I'm easy, tho' so in future "drawing dead" it shall be!