100NL QQ rr pot donkbet on flop

Panic__NL · #1 10-23-2007, 11:07 AM

Villian is 51/17/4.5 over 102 hands
I am 19/16/3

What is the best response to his donkbet?

iPoker No-Limit Texas Hold'em (NL100), $1.00 BB (6 handed) SilverKitty Hand History converter by www.pokeronline.com.ua

Button ($98.8)
SB ($175.55)
BB ($112.05)
MP2 ($54.52)
MP3 ($129.55)
Hero ($100)

SB: Post SB $0.50
BB: Post BB $1.00

Preflop:
Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
1 folds
MP3 Raise $4
Hero Raise $13.5
3 folds
MP3 Call $9.5

Flop:($28.5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img](2 players)
MP3 Bet $17
Hero ???????

diskopoker · #2 10-23-2007, 11:19 AM

that's a great flop for QQ - raise pot or push - what more do you want?

(you will sometimes be beat of course - but it happens)

shandyboy · #3 10-23-2007, 11:23 AM

i r/r here, villain looks the type to overvalue low PP overpairs, im looking to get all my money in on this flop.
if he has a set so be it, but equally he could have 77/88/99/TT/A6 even.
Plus the old 'he will put on AK'.

r/r and be happy for action, as for the amount, well, i dont want to lose him, maybe i r/r to $40, this leaves $50ish behind to push in on turn into a $100ish pot.
I think this commits villain to stack off?

Is a small r/r but he is probably only drawing to 2 outs.

Panic__NL · #4 10-23-2007, 11:23 AM

i am not folding here, but the question is how do we extract the most value?

diskopoker · #5 10-23-2007, 11:25 AM

anything less than three times his bet is foolish imo.

JFsports · #6 10-23-2007, 12:09 PM

I'd make it about 50 and expect to be shoved on

kaby · #7 10-23-2007, 12:47 PM

i think 5 secs, call, and expect him to bet/shove his entire range on any turn

his AF could mean that he actually folds when we play back but when you think he'll stack off with A6/88/whatever trash he as go ahead and get in

ajmargarine · #8 10-23-2007, 12:50 PM

1. Shove now
2. Chuckle when he calls with 99
3. ???
4. Profit

Suigin406 · #9 10-23-2007, 12:52 PM

shoving here is better than raising imo

badkins6 · #10 10-23-2007, 12:54 PM

I actually think this is 77-JJ a lot of the time, and he is donking to "find out where he is". personally I would raise and try to get it in, but if you think he could be capable of firing two barrells with one of those hands you could call and shove over his turn bet.