Do you call here?

[timex]

Edit: This hand didn't actually happen.


PokerStars Game #12229033677: Tournament #70000014, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (50/100) - 2007/09/23 - 17:24:14 (ET)
Table '70000014 174' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: DoWeCare (22825 in chips)
Seat 2: plghh (16750 in chips)
Seat 3: vPauli (14725 in chips)
Seat 4: HappyMeals (13525 in chips)
Seat 5: tîmex (28300 in chips)
Seat 6: zizou444 (16350 in chips)
Seat 7: kamodadragon (13995 in chips)
Seat 8: Kennethmedh (22675 in chips)
Seat 9: TheDude30 (3230 in chips)
DoWeCare: posts small blind 50
plghh: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zizou444 [Jd Jh]
vPauli: folds
HappyMeals: folds
tîmex: raises 350 to 450
zizou444: raises 1050 to 1500
kamodadragon: folds
Kennethmedh: folds
TheDude30: folds
DoWeCare: calls 1450
plghh: folds
tîmex: calls 1050
*** FLOP *** [2h 3c 8c]
DoWeCare: checks
tîmex: checks
zizou444: bets 2850
DoWeCare: folds
tîmex: calls 2850
*** TURN *** [2h 3c 8c] [9s]
tîmex: checks
zizou444: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 3c 8c 9s] [8h]
tîmex: bets 1500
zizou444: raises 10500 to 12000 and is all-in


Whats your calling range here?

If you are in zizou's shoes, whats your shoving range?

[gobboboy]

I'm folding. Fold the flop.

I'd jam QQ+ against you because there's no way you bet 1500 on the river with hands that have me beat.

[Ansky]

whyd u open for 4.5x?

[jlocdog]

Is DoWeCare overcalling with QQ+? I think some of the time we should be squeezing PF here since we end up HU with DWC alot more then zizou444.

[TheNewf]

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I'm folding. Fold the flop.

I'd jam QQ+ against you because there's no way you bet 1500 on the river with hands that have me beat.

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[Mench]

agree with folding flop, but what level is villain on. some will see your bet and jam with hands that cant beat you since the block is so weak looking.

[timex]

Sigh, this didn't go how I wanted.

I'm villain this hand, and value shove river, and I was just wondering whether 2+2ers would call my value shove at all, and if so with what.

[WarDekar]

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Sigh, this didn't go how I wanted.

I'm villain this hand, and value shove river, and I was just wondering whether 2+2ers would call my value shove at all, and if so with what.

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Dealt to zizou444 [Jd Jh]

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Maybe you should learn how to falsify HHs better?

[getballed]

I call PF for the pot odds but fold the flop unless I set here