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Old 11-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Babalatexi Babalatexi is offline
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Default NL 25 KK easy shove?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($23.87)
UTG ($4.61)
MP ($20.59)
Hero ($26.14)
Button ($18.59)
SB ($25.06)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, BB calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.75</font>, BB calls $4.75.

River: ($15.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero...

Villain is 37/9 after just 30ish hands, seems bad, no other reads. Just wondering if a push here is really standard, villain only has a little over a psb left.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

I doubt he got a straight, looks like missed clubs.

Do we lose that much by checking behind?
I guess 99+ would call a push on the river.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

I push here if you think he will call with an 8, otherwise I like betting slightly less than a push just because people seem to call those bets alot more frequently than a push.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

mandatory bet
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

I probably check behind here. What does he call a river shove with that doesn't win the pot? If he'll call with A8 or something like that, then go ahead and push. Other than that, I would check.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:06 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

Terrible thinking that he will only call with A8. He could call with any random 8, or 99-TT. If he has called this far why wont he call another bet?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

I would shove the river, as there is about a pts-bet left.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

bet, but not AI, $10
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

See the only problem I have with shoving here as opposed to betting is that most villains dont think "oh that bet makes sense, its only a psb". They think, "damn thats a big bet". I just find so many people folding to shoves here as opposed to betting like 10-12 and they call, even though the logic makes no sense on their part.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 KK easy shove?

He has played the hand so strange by c/c the whole way. To me he is either on a draw or has a huge hand and is trapping. He obviously isn't calling with a fd, since that missed. I guess he might call with 99/TT/JJ, but he would have played awful on every street if he had 1 of those hands.
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