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Old 09-12-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

I've been at the table from about 10-15 hands. villain (utg in the hand below) is a donkey, seems to call alot pf and post. This hand just happened:



Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,880.68
BB: $591.00
UTG: $1,585.19
CO: $575.33
US (BTN): $600.00

Preflop: US is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $6.00, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30.00</font>, UTG calls $24.00

Flop: ($63) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $53.00</font>, UTG calls $53.00

Turn: ($169) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $167.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $508.00</font>, UTG calls $341.00

River: ($1185) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,185.00 ($2 Rake)

BB had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$592.00)
UTG had 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$591.00)




then this hand came up:


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $897.33
US (BB): $600.00
UTG: $537.00
MP: $1,877.68
CO: $1,180.00
BTN: $733.19

Preflop: US is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $21.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, SB folds, US??

utg here is a tag, never seen the donkey do that min3b (or 3b at all) so far

Already had one answer from a good player, just looking for a few more opinions.

if you just call or fold, whats your 4b range? Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

quick cheeky bump before i go to bed
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

i dont play this high but i think a fold looks good.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

I'd 4bet AK, JJ+.

And I'd 4bet here for sure, esp given that most of the time UTG will fold and BTN will call with something terrible and stack fairly light.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

4bet and keep the donkey to yourself.
I would 4bet JJ+ AK for sure vs this guy. Maybe even wider if I'd seen him play.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

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I'd 4bet AK, JJ+.

And I'd 4bet here for sure, esp given that most of the time UTG will fold and BTN will call with something terrible and stack fairly light.

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lol nextgen replied before i saw this
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

4 bet- fold to a reraise from the tag. if the tag calls either spike on the flop or put the breaks on.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

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I would 4bet JJ+ AK for sure vs this guy. Maybe even wider if I'd seen him play.

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I could see suited connecters in this range easily.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

noooo, im not 4b scs. are you insane? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: AK pf against donkey facing min 3b

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I would 4bet JJ+ AK for sure vs this guy. Maybe even wider if I'd seen him play.

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I could see suited connecters in this range easily.

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Lol. UTG is a TAG so he probably has a fairly tight range so we don't want to 4bet him too light. The other guy is stacking any pair by the looks of it and probably calling with a wide range so how the F are we going to profitably play some marginal ass SC vs him out of position.
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