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#12
08-01-2007, 01:29 AM
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Re: Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
Bergman was not only a great director, but he was a prolifically great director.
It is hard and usually unfair to rank films and directors in an ascending or descending order of greatness. Too much relies on one's personal aesthetic opinion or current whims. I don't think anyone can say whether Bergman was better or worse than Welles, Mizoguchi, Renoir... etc. But we can say that for sheer number of great films, Bergman is at the top of the list with Alfred Hitchcock. Of Bergman's 50 or so films, about a dozen are considered major works of cinema. Only Hitchcock can match or surpass this, followed by John Ford and Akira Kurosawa. 
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#13
08-01-2007, 10:45 AM
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Re: Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
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I think he slipped into his own navel and fell to his death. [/ QUOTE ] That seems a bit severe, but I'm with you on the overratedness. He's worth studying...but worth worshiping? As for directors with high quantities of great films, I think it's altogether too easy to forget about the "who you know" and the "where you were," not to mention how many directors lucked into their jobs. Would Hitchcock have been able to make as many movies and to the scale that he did if he hadn't lucked out at Paramount? What I like best about Bergman is that he was a true artist. It's almost like you need a tragedy of some sort in your life to be able to be an artist that really accomplishes something lasting in the way of human connections. I see self-styled artists, a lot of them these days, who've never really lived let alone survived anything really tragic making empty things. Or worse, making their lives (and the lives of those who love them) harder than they need to be because they're aware that their lives have lacked some serious depth and experience and they feel the need to compensate. Sometimes that works. Bergman didn't need that. When your parents lock you in a closet (starting at the age of five?) and tell you to pray for your life, I imagine the path is sort of laid out.
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08-01-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
Just so you know, I knew that. I figured if anyone wasn't following the thread, that it wasn't my problem. There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any.
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08-01-2007, 04:27 PM
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Re: Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
I just remember Bergman boring the hell out of me when I was a kid, but I'll probably give him another chance some day. I confess that I'm not looking forward to it.
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#18
08-02-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
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[ QUOTE ] There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any. [/ QUOTE ] *raises hand* [/ QUOTE ] ...have we met?
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08-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any. [/ QUOTE ] *raises hand* [/ QUOTE ] ...have we met? [/ QUOTE ] just on the internets
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