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Old 07-26-2007, 01:00 PM
Arp220 Arp220 is offline
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Default Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

Just curious.

The reason I ask is that, the other day on fulltilt playing 0.1/0.25, this guy c/r the flop three times in a row. So when I actually reached the flop and he did it again I though 'ahah! a bluff!' and shoved (I had middle pair or something).

Needless to say he wasnt bluffing.

So has anyone ever seen a c/r as a bluff at uNL?
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:03 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

I have performed a check-raise bluff at uNL from time to time (very rarely).

Don't think I have ever seen one that I know of, but I may have folded to one or two before
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

Oh yes. Especially if you raise a lot preflop and cbet the flops. Your opponents will after a short time start CRing your cbet on the flop.

Here is a hand I played yesterday:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $42.55
Hero (BB): $124.55
UTG: $39.40
MP: $74.30
CO: $28.70
BTN: $50.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: ($22) 5 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00

River: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $19.55</font>, Hero calls $19.55

Pot Size: $85.10 ($3 Rake)

SB had J 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ([Jd 7h] a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$42.55)
Hero had 7 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight high) and WON (+$39.55)
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?


Interesting, thanks.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:10 PM
DaycareInferno DaycareInferno is offline
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

i check-raise bluff the turn quite often against certain player types. i will occasionally do it on the flop against a looshish opponent when i am pretty confident the board did not help him. not so much though, because i almost never cold-call raises preflop oop with non-pair hands in the first place, and i just about never check-raise with the lead.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

I do it a couple times every session. Usually when I'm on tilt. If someone did it three times in a row, they clearly are full of [censored] at least once.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:25 PM
cowboy billy cowboy billy is offline
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

I do it frequently actually, mostly when I've called a pre flop raise out of the blinds from an active button or cut off, I'll also float in this spot sometimes, and occasionally I'll even c/raise turn with air


fwiw, I think hero played this hand poorly, calling the flop raise is ok, but hero can't continue on turn:

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Oh yes. Especially if you raise a lot preflop and cbet the flops. Your opponents will after a short time start CRing your cbet on the flop.

Here is a hand I played yesterday:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $42.55
Hero (BB): $124.55
UTG: $39.40
MP: $74.30
CO: $28.70
BTN: $50.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: ($22) 5 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00

River: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $19.55</font>, Hero calls $19.55

Pot Size: $85.10 ($3 Rake)

SB had J 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ([Jd 7h] a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$42.55)
Hero had 7 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight high) and WON (+$39.55)

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Old 07-26-2007, 01:27 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

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fwiw, I think hero played this hand poorly, calling the flop raise is ok, but hero can't continue on turn:

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I agree. Went through this hand with a 2+2er after the session, and evaluated expressed and implied odds on both flop and turn. We came to the same conclusion.

Reason I posted this hand was to show an example of where I got CRd on the flop with total air.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

Yes people check-raise bluff me quite a bit. It's something you run into when you anger players with non-stop C-betting
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Ever seen a check-raise bluff at uNL?

I am known by Stars NL2 and NL5 villains as a triple barrel checkraise bluffer. Don't know if others do it, I have heard of BoostedJ double barrel checkraise bluffing before at high stakes (after I told someone who helps me I triple barrel checkraise bluff). I only do this when I am on super monkey tilt though.
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