10NL Set on scary board

[JH1]

MP1 ($5) is a pretty bad calling station running 32/1/0.5 over 100 hands. MP2 ($60) is running at 55/20/0.7 over 75 hands. Hero ($13) is at 18/10/1.8 in the SB. 9 handed.

Dealt to Hero T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

2 folds, MP1 calls 0.10, MP2 raises to 0.40, folds to Hero who calls 0.40, BB folds

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [1.30]

Hero bets 1.10, MP1 calls, MP2 calls

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [4.60]

Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets 2.25, Hero calls, MP1 calls

<font color=" blue">My plan here is to call the 1/2 PSB on the turn and bet out if the river pairs the board, c/f everything else. Not sure if this is a good idea or not. </font>

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [11.35]

Hero bets 9.25 and is all in, MP1 calls 1.25 and is all in, MP2 calls 9.25

Comments on all streets welcome.

[r2me]

My first thought was shut it down after the turn w/ 4 to a straight + FD on board. But the more I think about it, the more I like your call because you will get implied odds if you hit your hand on 5th. And you've got 11 outs to make a FH or quads on 5th.

2 callers on flop either have: (1) made straight on flop; (2) pair + OESD on flop; (3) pr 9 + FD; (4) 2 pr on flop; (5) overpair to board (esp QQ). A 55/20 calls a lot of raises w/ junk so you only need to worry abt a badly played J8 or J9 or a very lucky JJ.

You were most likely WB on the flop &amp; turn. But you have a good chance of stacking both if you hit your hand.

[Dorian008]

I would also call here on the turn, u got huge implied odds
-&gt; NH!

[too eazy]

you played this well for a noob

[JH1]

Thanks guys.

I pretty much considered MP1 to be dead money because he was c/c with any top or second pair on any textured board. So against MP2 I think I was pretty much way ahead of his range on the river. Does this look reasonable (could probably add a couple Queens in there too which would put me farther ahead on the river)?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

85,140 games 0.001 secs 85,140,000 games/sec

Board: 8c Tc 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.945% 26.45% 01.49% 22523 1269.00 { 88+, J7s+, T8s, 98s, J7o+, T8o, 98o }
Hand 1: 72.055% 70.56% 01.49% 60079 1269.00 { ThTs }

I actually lost this hand, MP1 had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and I'm not sure why he stayed in the hand, but of course he's a calling station.

MP2 had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I think he played the flop and turn pretty bad, probably should have reraised with the flopped OESFD and checked behind on the turn to hit his flush/fullhouse draw. That 1/2 PSB just threw me off a bit but it gave me good implied odds so I'm not sure about his play, it was weird.

Regardless, I am happy with getting it all in on the river against his range if that is accurate for a 55/20 in MP. He was actually playing 60% of hands in EP and 40% in LP.

One more question, does anyone bet out again on the turn and try to rep the Q and for how much? I don't know if that would make sense after betting out on the flop because the only thing I'd do that with would be A/K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] but it's just a thought. I assume I would have to fold if I got raised on the turn then.

[Equus asinus]

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I actually lost this hand, MP1 had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and I'm not sure why he stayed in the hand, but of course he's a calling station.


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I'm a bigger fish than I thought! I don't see how trip Jacks with an Ace kicker beat a full house [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Other than that I think calling the turn was good against MP2. He has you covered and will probably stack off if you hit. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Abdullaev]

He lost to the dude with J9. I think your turn call was mandatory, and on the river you have the winner most of the time.

[Equus asinus]

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He lost to the dude with J9. I think your turn call was mandatory, and on the river you have the winner most of the time.

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Sweet, thanks. Guess I gotta work on my reading skillz, but at least I don't have to quit poker now.

[Abdullaev]

Just pointed it out because I misread it the first time too.

[JH1]

Yeah sorry, I lost to MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I see how that's confusing when I put it in 2 paragraphs. Just mentioned MP1's hand because I thought I had a good read on him, I was actually thinking he had an 8,9 or T with an overcard during the flop and turn.