stars 1/2 - qq in capped preflop pot with k on flop

[Sushiglutton]

I' not sure I lke the flop play. Feel like UTG+2 will fold all hands for one as he will fold for two, unless he is very brave. Giving your lack of reads I prefer your passive line and c/c.

[Sushiglutton]

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Your getting taken to value town on the turn and river by check/calling both streets.

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True, but if villain makes a FSD raise with JJ-TT or something other weird we can lose the pot. Villain has aggro stat (especially given how loosely he plays pf) and pot is huge. Better take the safe line IMO.

[Dankenstein]

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Only thing I see wrong with his stats is that he his vpip is slightly high. Someone who has really good postflop play will be able to get away with a higher vpip.

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"Slightly" high? 33% basically means that he's playing Ax, mid unsuited connectors and suited one gappers from any postition. That's not slightly loose, that's speewing money.

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What is your vpip and what do you think it should be between ?

If you had to classify VPIP in 4 ranges of Too tight, Tight (where you want to be), Slightly loose, and loose what would those ranges be ?


This player looks like a 6-max player playing in full ring.
I see players like this all the time who are competent postflop and loose preflop. I'm not saying a high vpip is something you should strive for. I'm just saying that this VPIP alone isn't an indicator of whether he is a good player post flop and you shouldn't be making that "read" from his stats.

[bozlax]

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I figured the K was actually a good card because it's less likely he has a king, so at that point i'm just calling down and hoping to see JJ.

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Wha? Bu? Wai? Uh? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I'm sure I'll read this down in the thread, but a) the flop c/r isn't terrible, but is probably pointless (UTG+2 is folding anything that he'll fold whether he's looking at 1 or 2 bets) and will cost you $$ against an aggro with TPTK; b) having c/r'd the flop, you need to lead pretty much 100% of turn cards. If you think a player is playing back at you on boards like this you can go for the double c/r with hands like QQ/JJ, but only if you also do it with AA and AK.

Also, you need to cut off the action somewhere in this hand. Villan's line = AA/AK/KQ a LOT, and calling down after the flop c/r is just spewing chips into his pocket.

[calidris]

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This player looks like a 6-max player playing in full ring.

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Exactly, and that's why he's speewing money. Using a 6-max strategy to play FR is not a very good idea.

[bellatrix]

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This player looks like a 6-max player playing in full ring.

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Exactly, and that's why he's speewing money. Using a 6-max strategy to play FR is not a very good idea.

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Uh, minor nitpick.
6max is FR with first 3-4 people folding. It's more HU pots, which is where the perceived difference comes. But using a "6-max strategy" when the first 3-4 people fold is a very good idea.

[neurotiq]

Preflop looks good. I'd consider just calling the flop. You're ahead of 6 combos of JJ. You're behind 12 combos of AK, 6 combos of AA, and 3 combos of KK. There's only one combo of QQ remaining for the chop. This means you're behind far more often than you're ahead.

As played, you have to lead the turn after villain peels the flop.

EDIT: Just noticed in your read that you said he could be capping with TT. Okay, then there are also 6 combos of TT that you beat. But still a lot more hands that you lose to. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Sushiglutton]

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having c/r'd the flop, you need to lead pretty much 100% of turn cards.

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Agaisnt which hands is leading a good play? B/f is dangerous vs an aggro player in a big pot.

[HermannTL]

Do you really think that 2.0 is aggro for a guy seeing the flop at this rate?

[tyler_cracker]

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having c/r'd the flop, you need to lead pretty much 100% of turn cards.

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Agaisnt which hands is leading a good play?

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all of the hands against which you c/r the flop.