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#11
09-26-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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if you check this turn, then u call riv shove every time. thats how it works [/ QUOTE ] disagree, what is ge suddenly deciding to push the turn with that he called the flop? Not a whole lot of vb combos we beat, and as for bluffs, what could he have? 
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#12
09-26-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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[ QUOTE ] if you check this turn, then u call riv shove every time. thats how it works [/ QUOTE ] disagree, what is ge suddenly deciding to push the turn with that he called the flop? Not a whole lot of vb combos we beat, and as for bluffs, what could he have? [/ QUOTE ] Any 10x. Don't look into get into the mind of a donk. He could easily think he's value betting JJ or whatever. I agree with Colombo that once you check the Q turn, you have to c/c the river.
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#13
09-26-2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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44/17 --> call 0.7 --> fold I think the second point is more important, I have a very hard time seeing what he pushes on river apart from TT/QQ/KK/AA all very possible. We get bad odds and line looks very strong... [/ QUOTE ] this is true but given that the sample is small im weighting it more towards the 44/17 which makes it look like he's there to mix it up/capable of betting at weakness, plus he cc a three bet, which with those stats says donkified.
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09-26-2007, 10:34 PM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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if you check this turn, then u call riv shove every time. thats how it works [/ QUOTE ] Against a competent decent somewhat thinking player i totally agree. Against a complete donk, I totally disagree
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#16
09-26-2007, 10:41 PM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
he's already defined his range as something with either weak showdown value or something that wants more money in the pot a lot of the time, and now he's shoving an overcard river, i doubt he's doing this with AK or JJ, just toss it.
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#17
09-27-2007, 10:34 AM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
bump for a few more votes, thanks.
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#19
09-27-2007, 10:54 AM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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i'd call. why did you check the turn? i'd be overjoyed to get allin on the turn v this retard [/ QUOTE ] the pf cold call kinda shook me up (although his stats were donkish I hadn't seen alot from him really), didnt really know what range to put him on, didnt think he was gonna call with too much worse.
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#20
09-27-2007, 10:57 AM
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Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
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I think the reason to fold is becasue he is 44/17/0.7, in my experience this guy has AA or KK a lot when he shoves the river. But I can also see an argument for calling casue liek you said occasionally they show up with middle pair or JJ or something [/ QUOTE ] Clearly a case for both sides. I have found the .7 to be a reliable tell and vote fold.
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