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Old 08-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Babalatexi Babalatexi is offline
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Default NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

No reads on villain, haven't seen him before. Calling the raise doesn't seem like a good option, I'm OOP and the board is drawy and I'd have less than a pot-sized bet left. Push or fold, and why?

B2B No Limit Hold'em Cashgame
Blinds: €0,25 / €0,50
Players: 5

BB - Villain (€117,97)
UTG (€36,52)
CO (€50,00)
Button (€50,25)
SB - Hero (€51,00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls €0,50, CO calls €0,50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to €3</font>, Villain calls €2,50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls €2,50

Flop: (€9,50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets €7,75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to €20,00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
xeanatic xeanatic is offline
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

Hero Pushes as you said board is very drawy. If he has a set here so be it..
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

If you call, you can go all-in on a non-spade turn. The equity of villain is a lot less than when you push the flop.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

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If you call, you can go all-in on a non-spade turn. The equity of villain is a lot less than when you push the flop.

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Good point. Would you do the same with JJ-QQ (assuming the turn's a blank) or just push the flop with those (and 99-TT) as overcards can hit on the turn as well as a spade?
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

go all in
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

shovetyshove because that's what real men do
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

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Good point. Would you do the same with JJ-QQ (assuming the turn's a blank) or just push the flop with those (and 99-TT) as overcards can hit on the turn as well as a spade?

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I don't really like to play for stacks with JJ when I'm raised on the turn. If an overcard comes I would slow down but Villain can have a king high flush draw for example, so an overcard hits him only 33% of the time in that case.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: NL 50, AA getting raised on flop

Its seems that he reraised enough to make you fold or go all in and with his stack, he has a wide range of cards that he could call with preflop. The hard part is there are not too many blanks that can come off. Any spade or any card from 2-9 is a scare card for you completing a flush or so many possible straights combos. I think you can only raise all in or fold. Flat calling leaves him in too good of shape with stack vs pot to lay something down on the turn if he had any tyoe of semi-bluff
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