QQ on K high board

[ChicagoPoker]

Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

[MJBuddy]

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Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

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In this pot you're committed all in regardless of action due to stack size. If you open jam, which is +EV, all kings will call you. If you checkraise all in here, you get weak hands (pp, air, etc) to bet into you to take the pot, and you semi-bluff as a monster vs weak kings. Is K2 going to call a checkraise AI by a pre-flop raiser? A bit extreme to think a king is there. This way you gain value out of low PP and A high by letting them bet their weak hands into you. You are also calling any jams here.

[ChicagoPoker]

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Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

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In this pot you're committed all in regardless of action due to stack size. If you open jam, which is +EV, all kings will call you. If you checkraise all in here, you get weak hands (pp, air, etc) to bet into you to take the pot, and you semi-bluff as a monster vs weak kings. Is K2 going to call a checkraise AI by a pre-flop raiser? A bit extreme to think a king is there. This way you gain value out of low PP and A high by letting them bet their weak hands into you. You are also calling any jams here.

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Thank you. I did not notice the stack sizes, that seems to be the key issue here. Definitely makes sense now. Thanks again.

[MJBuddy]

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Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

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In this pot you're committed all in regardless of action due to stack size. If you open jam, which is +EV, all kings will call you. If you checkraise all in here, you get weak hands (pp, air, etc) to bet into you to take the pot, and you semi-bluff as a monster vs weak kings. Is K2 going to call a checkraise AI by a pre-flop raiser? A bit extreme to think a king is there. This way you gain value out of low PP and A high by letting them bet their weak hands into you. You are also calling any jams here.

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Thank you. I did not notice the stack sizes, that seems to be the key issue here. Definitely makes sense now. Thanks again.

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It's also why jamming pre flop is the biggest issue here. The only time this situation should come up other than a mistake pre-flop is raising 3xBB with 13 or so BB in your stack and getting multiple callers.

[J.A.K.]

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Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

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We can't c/r the flop being last to act. HU this weak lead is crap other than a K enough to jam over IMO and we can't just call because of our stack.

[ChicagoPoker]

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Why would we c/r AI on a flop like this with QQ? Isn't that turning your hand into a bluff? Won't only a hand that beats you call?

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We can't c/r the flop being last to act. HU this weak lead is crap other than a K enough to jam over IMO and we can't just call because of our stack.

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I know. If you look a few posts up I was referring to a hypothetical where they discussed being first to act.

[MJBuddy]

We really have to treat everything here post-flop as a hypothetical because you should almost never be in this situation in position (with a pot the size of your stack on the flop), unless both of the blinds are your callers.

[gimmetheloot]

call river. raise more pf...like...350-450 or shove.

[jcg2005]

Am i thinking too simply (ZOMG we has two queens!?!?) in that he wouldn't bet the same amount on the flop and turn with anything he would want to value shove the river with?