Live tourney, blind defense become twopairaments..

[plzleenowhammy]

30buy-in, 30 players.. 25/50 4k starting stacks
villain ~7.5
Hero ~6

villain doubled through in this hand
limps around pf.. 10,4,4r flop.. bb leads, villain calls. turn 8.. bb shoves, villain calls with a4

I've been by far the most active at our 7 handed table.. raising a lot of pots and cbetting as well as floating a few hands and taking pots away on the turn.. got caught bluffing a few hands ago when i bet the turn and rvr on kk8xx board and different villain raised on the river and i had to fold

ok on to the show..

villain raises to 200 in mp (maybe his 2nd or third pf raise but I don't remember. He wasn't particularly active). Folds around and I defend with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

flop q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I lead for 400, he calls

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I lead 750, he calls

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I check, he bets 1500 and I hate life

Comments on all streets are welcome and needed cuz i'm confused.

[levAA]

well played

i think you have to call this - don't think he was on the flush draw but played something like AQ, KQ or a PP 66-88,TT. maybe he made complete dumb calls with a flush draw, but normally they fold it if they don't improve on the turn. maybe u run into a set. but i think you are in front most of the times.

[paddymcg21]

Agreed I think you have to call the river bet. I hate it pre flop though, I have no problems letting go of 35s to a 4xbb raise pre flop. I never really get the urge to defend my big blind with junk unless say the button or small blind is stealing it a bit too often. As it played I say you're ahead most of the time on the river here.

[plzleenowhammy]

levAA, you really think he can have a non-set pp 66-tt? if you were villain what hands do you show up with on the river?

ty for the response btw.

paddymcg21, i thought his pf raising range was pretty tight and it was stack-a-donk time if i hit the exact flop that i wound up hitting. that being said, i agree that my pf call was slightly bad at best and horrific at worst. in my defense, i was bored and playing atc increases my fun equity if such a thing exists.

[levAA]

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levAA, you really think he can have a non-set pp 66-tt? if you were villain what hands do you show up with on the river?

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yes i think so (if he holds TT oe even 88 his play makes sense to me). but if he plays tight good poker i think you can exclude the flush draw possibility. still i think you beat more hands than you are beaten from so with these pot odds i think you have to call.

[hamnegger]

i definitely call.

[plzleenowhammy]

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i definitely call.

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pf, flop and turn are ok?

[ninconvert]

Am I missing something? Villain shows up with KQ or AQ a ton here. You could be beat but I think you're ahead most of the time, call.

[supair]

Preflop is ok, a bit spewy maybe against this type of villain, who hasnt been out of line, as your gna have to hit the flop hard to win most times, being OOP and all, and its just not going to happen enough to justify the call.

The flop and turn are well played.

Im not sure hes betting much of his range on the end that doent beat you.

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Am I missing something? Villain shows up with KQ or AQ a ton here. You could be beat but I think you're ahead most of the time, call.

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I think top pair raises earlier in the hand, and all his would be bluffing hands are folded by your turn bet. Hes basically saying hes got top pair beat, as thats what youve been repping all the way through the hand, and Id say hes fairly sure hes got tp beat with that bet, and if he has, your behind.

That said, there are probably enough people about who would play AQ/KQ like this to make a call profitable, so I couldnt fault ya, although Im fairly sure he had JJ or AdKd.

Please post results after the discussion, as its an interesting hand.

[plzleenowhammy]

thanks for the posts guys.. i called and he flipped a10dd for the frush.. i h8 life.