22$, Should I push here with ATC?

[Dimitzu]

Lost my stack on the last hand when I pushed with 66 OTB and it didn`t hold up. Do I have to push here with any two?


Blinds are 300-600.

Hero (t1655)
BTN (t3080)
SB (t7150)
BB (t3115)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero?

[RexWoo]

This is really too trashy imo.

My guess is that most of the time it's better to call the next one than pushing this.

[pdiggz]

This might be a good spot to raise, but not shove. If there is action like, you raise, btn shoves, sb and/or bb call, then you can fold and maybe backdoor a 3rd place. Just an idea.

Folding isn't bad either. You should have a better hand next hand and just get it in then when in the bb.

[holy32]

Depends on the table and your image. If they are really tight (f.e. BTN won't call w/ A9), a push is +EV.

I fold here, as there can easily be action from the other players in this hand that gets you ITM and BB should call fairly wide, knowing you're afraid of the BB next hand.

You still have almost 2,5 bb's. Even if you get trash next hand and fold, or if someone pushes and someone else calls, you're not dead. People should't go crazy when they're stack goes below 2 bb's, it's still playable and you have options.

Don't like pdiggz idea that much. If you don't push then BB is going to have to call (or at least feel like he has to). You could possibly raise to 1500 and fold if there really is another push and a call but I doubt throwing that many chips away just to get ITM is +EV.

[Shrooma]

I would push like 80% of hands here, 84o not included. I like pdiggz idea, although it doesn't work against good opponents.

ICM calculations:

Shove any two if opponents are very tight (button 10%, SB 14% and BB 20%), average opp just fold. Even Btn 14%, SB 20%, BB 25% should be folded (which leads to shoving about 80% of your hands).

[crystalallen]

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This might be a good spot to raise, but not shove.

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Notice the stack size.

[PokerSpiv]

Opponents are never "Very Tight" on 22s. Small Blind is calling with QTo here most of the time.

BB's Calling range here is much bigger than 25% if he's any good too.

[holy32]

The raise-and-fold-if-others-go-allin idea is great for situations where you have a really small stack and are only going for 3rd anyway.

Something like this:

Hero 500
Button 3500
SB 5500
BB 4000
Blinds 100/200, Hero is dealt XX (bottom 10% or so)
Hero raises to 490, Button push, SB push, BB fold, Hero fold

[crystalallen]

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The raise-and-fold-if-others-go-allin idea is great for situations where you have a really small stack and are only going for 3rd anyway.

Something like this:

Hero 500
Button 3500
SB 5500
BB 4000
Blinds 100/200, Hero is dealt XX (bottom 10% or so)
Hero raises to 490, Button push, SB push, BB fold, Hero fold

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Ha. Always play to win.

[crystalallen]

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The raise-and-fold-if-others-go-allin idea is great for situations where you have a really small stack and are only going for 3rd anyway.

Something like this:

Hero 500
Button 3500
SB 5500
BB 4000
Blinds 100/200, Hero is dealt XX (bottom 10% or so)
Hero raises to 490, Button push, SB push, BB fold, Hero fold

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Ha. Always play to win.

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Wait. Was this serious?