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Old 09-25-2007, 04:42 AM
Elrazor Elrazor is offline
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Default PLO100 - is my line ok here?

SB berated me here for the way i played it, but i thought i got it spot on - anyone disagree??

Cryptologic
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $102.54
CO: $108
Button: $143.85
SB: $138.35
BB: $58.61

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $4</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls.

ok ove flopped nothing and SB has bet into me - hes running 30/20/2.75, but im playing fewer tables tonight so im paying attention to my opponents more than usual - his AF stats per street are 4.4, 1.4, 1.0 over 365 hands this session, im planning to take it off him if a club comes, and i always have backdoor diamonds.......

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $27</font>, Hero calls.

ok so he has something and he wants me to go away - im sure he has me on the nut club draw at this point, and if he has a set i have 13 clean outs - more importantly if a diamond drops and he checks, its surely to let me 'bluff' my missed club draw so he can call. had i missed a diamond here and he had bet out i would fold as his range has narrowed with his turn bet and he may well have clubs himself. i think i have huge implied odds so i call

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($81, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $62.54</font>, SB calls.

um hand kinda plays itself from here

Results:
Final pot: $206.08
Hero shows 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB shows 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:48 AM
Ribbo Ribbo is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

I'd be tempted to raise the turn as a semi bluff. You've picked up a deuce and a 6 as straight outs and I really don't see opponent holding 56 himself, plus unless he has JJ or 77 it makes it extremely difficult to call himself.
I hate the flop, it's about as bad as it gets for AA with no flush draw so calling is fine. You really want a blank turn before going to war.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:51 AM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

I dislike Preflop
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:27 AM
Ribbo Ribbo is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

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I dislike Preflop

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Preflop is perfectly fine.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:31 AM
alavet alavet is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

yeah for villian your actions looks dumb but after uve expained it i love it
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:53 AM
Machmood Machmood is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

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I'd be tempted to raise the turn as a semi bluff. You've picked up a deuce and a 6 as straight outs and I really don't see opponent holding 56 himself, plus unless he has JJ or 77 it makes it extremely difficult to call himself.
I hate the flop, it's about as bad as it gets for AA with no flush draw so calling is fine. You really want a blank turn before going to war.

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id say thats a pretty good flop for AA, what exacrly are you losing to against some1 who put in a raise preflop??
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:05 AM
Machmood Machmood is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

also i might re-raise pre-flop and see where he is at....you might get a good opprotunity if he decides to do something crazy
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:43 AM
MYRKO MYRKO is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

Preflop and flop are fine.

Turn is esay fold.
In the Best case you are coin flip.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:34 AM
DonCologne DonCologne is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

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Turn is esay fold.


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If villain has JJ** or 77** without a clubs draw, I can count 16 outs (4 deuces, 4 sixes, 2 aces, the 5,8,9,J,Q,K of diamonds) + the 8,9,T,Q,K of cubs giving Hero the good chance to bluff villain out of the pot.

So you will fold 16 outs giving you odds of 26/16 = 1.625/1 (against JJ** or 77**) against a pot size bet, which means pot odds of 2/1?

Even with 13 outs (without the 2,6,A of clubs) you have odds of 2.23/1 and with implied odds (Elrazor describe it in his first posting) it is an easy call or maybe a raise (Ribbo describe it why).
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:29 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - is my line ok here?

If you know you have nothing on the flop, fold, seems pretty simple. I'm not sure why you think it's so easy to rep clubs if they turn, does he never have a hand involving them here?

Turn, you have huge impled odds? Really? interesting. You're calling $27, you have $62 left, which he would have to call after the river is a card that hurts his hand.
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