Blackjack

private joker · #1 07-12-2007, 06:24 AM

Commerce 20.

I raise a loose-passive limper from the HJ with black AJo. CO and both blinds call, limper calls.

Flop QJT with 2 diamonds. Checked to me, I bet, CO (fishy), SB (really fishy) and limper call.

Turn 6s. Checked to me, I bet, all 3 call again.
River 9h. Checked to me and I check.

StrictlyStrategy · #2 07-12-2007, 06:36 AM

Standard City. What's the Question?

Nate. · #3 07-12-2007, 07:51 AM

Joker--

Good. Glad to see you bet the turn. Preflop and flop seem completely totally mandatory. Don't think there's any point to betting the river.

I guess one idea here would be to check flop and then raise most turns, but people play way too passively on these boards yet call with everything. So just bet.

--Nate

goofball · #4 07-12-2007, 08:25 AM

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Standard City. What's the Question?

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ProfessorBen · #5 07-12-2007, 09:48 AM

I might bet this HU, but there's no way that you're good 50% of the time 4 way here.

cowboy billy · #6 07-12-2007, 10:52 AM

wp

emerson · #7 07-12-2007, 11:12 AM

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I might bet this HU, but there's no way that you're good 50% of the time 4 way here.

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That's putting it mildly. The chances that one of the six cards in his 3 opponents hands are not among the 11 that beat you are just over 17%.

ProfessorBen · #8 07-12-2007, 11:22 AM

"NO WAY"

ProfessorBen · #9 07-12-2007, 11:24 AM

Variance(BEAT for me): PJ knows that this hand is super-standard but he wants to post a hand to show he can play Comm. now and I can't. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

emerson · #10 07-12-2007, 11:45 AM

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Commerce 20.

I raise a loose-passive limper from the HJ with black AJo. CO and both blinds call, limper calls.

Flop QJT with 2 diamonds. Checked to me, I bet, CO (fishy), SB (really fishy) and limper call.

Turn 6s. Checked to me, I bet, all 3 call again.
River 9h. Checked to me and I check.

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You did all you could do preflop and flop with this many who stayed in. I don't like the bet on the turn because you are the underdog even against really loose bad players. If the first limper had a 33% range, the cold caller had a 25% range, and the SB called with something like 75% (since you said he was really fishy), you have like 22% equity on the turn. And your chances are really worse than that given that these three hands all called on the flop. I don't like the bet on the turn even if you have only two opponents. I just don't see the value.