wtf ???

[Tib]

vilain is clearly a donk, 80% hand played preflop

how do you handle this ?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $41.00
BB: $29.10
UTG: $54.25
CO: $87.90
Hero (BTN): $80.93

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.99</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $11.00</font>, Hero calls $6.01

Turn: ($27.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $74.65</font>

Pot Size: $101.90

[Subzero_Wins]

I think this deep you need to fold this, unless he is REALLY spewy.

80% vpip doesn't make this a call unless he's shoving every hand.

[Bigka79]

anyone possibly folding flop...idk im a nit but then agian we wernt given a aggression factor, this could be folded in certian situations

[1tripz1]

Fold flop with TPTK to a minraise in this spot? you insane? lol.

What about raising the flop? If hes a donk he will prob overplay any ace. As played i fold turn though.

[n0ctu2ne]

I agree with subzero, you're probably beaten, but more than that, you should think about how your hand stands up to others.

I sincerely hope that you're against a maniac giving away his money, so if you are ahead, you're probably good. But I somehow think that's unlikely. The ideal situation would be if he somehow went into denial that aces do not exist (which sometimes happens to people with high PP's), and pushed really hard with KK-QQ.

On the other hand, what if you are beaten? A8, A3, AA, 33, 88, and 83 beat you at the moment. 83 is probably not being played, if it's a villain with any reason at all. Simply put, you need a lot of help if you're behind, so I like a fold here.

[AFCBeer]

Unless he is passive post flop then I reraise to about $30 with the intention of putting the rest in on the turn. 2 pair is part of his range here but so is any other ace so I'm happy to play for stacks despite being deep.

[Subzero_Wins]

3-betting the flop seems pretty results oriented to me. If you have a read that he'll stack off with any ace, that's fine. But against a range of top pairs/sets/draws, we're much better off calling.

This way we don't push off A9 hands, and can break up a powerful draw like 45cc by making him get the money in on the turn when he has much less equity.

If we're against a set, we're likely losing a very big pot no matter how we play it. Might as well play it well against draws/top pair.

[1tripz1]

how can not trying to get it all in on flop not be playing it good against top pair draws?

[Nogatsira]

Don't think you can really call here.
I do know that you can learn to write a usefull title for your thread.

[Subzero_Wins]

Most players aren't calling 3-bets with Tpwk.

If you think he'll stack off with any ace, then obviously trying to get it in on the flop is the way to go.