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Old 07-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default 400NL top pair vs. unknown

We are about 15 hands into the match. He's probably raised 7 of 8 buttons. There hasn't been much postflop action. This is the first time I have 3-bet him.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (BB): $522.75
SB: $441.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $42.00</font>, SB calls $30.00

Flop: ($84) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $68.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $172.00</font>
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:34 PM
MasterLJ MasterLJ is offline
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

I put it in here. He can have so many draws and can't fold to a push. At this point, neither can you.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

push!
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

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I put it in here. He can have so many draws and can't fold to a push. At this point, neither can you.

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So I guess this is an example of the difference between 3-betting and unknown button raiser in 6-max and HU? I feel like in 6-max you need some sort of read to felt this.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

what u think of - will he bet turn on any card?

if yes - u can call and fold to a scare card, if no you can push - i expect you have a little ahead in such cases overall like 60/40 and he will call your all in here for like 90% cases.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

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I put it in here. He can have so many draws and can't fold to a push. At this point, neither can you.

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So I guess this is an example of the difference between 3-betting and unknown button raiser in 6-max and HU? I feel like in 6-max you need some sort of read to felt this.

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Yes, absolutely.

Plus, obviously hand strengths are augmented in HU. HU vs and unknown, TP with Jack kicker is going to be the best hand here a lot, even in a 3bet pot.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: 400NL top pair vs. unknown

I agree with LJ.
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