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Old 11-29-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

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you're definitely behind here. yes you can fold.

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we're ahead of KQ, TJ, and 87

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villian appears to be a solid TAG. Easy fold.

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give me a range for villain?
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

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we only need to be good here 25% of the time to call.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.671% 23.50% 00.17% 6514 47.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 76.329% 76.16% 00.17% 21111 47.50 { TT-99, AKs, QJs, AKo, QJo }

Salient point and i make it 5.4 more into 22.7 pot so need 23.78 which seems to make this close. I've already folded but I was prob wrong on closer inspection.

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nice try. put in TJ and 9T and QJ

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I just put in the certainies to get us enough equity to call. TJ 9T maybe even 89 are just gravy. QJ is already there BTW.

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sorry i meant KQ...i edited. were behind 9T fwiw
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

It's close, but I think this is a call. I think we can somewhat discount AK from his ranges as I think a "solid tag" would reraise that preflop, but if he does this with KQ you have enough equity to call.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

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you're definitely behind here. yes you can fold.

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villian appears to be a solid TAG. Easy fold.

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give me a range for villain?

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we're ahead of KQ, TJ, and 87

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two pair or better. pair and a gutshot 3 bet shoves flop? gimme a break. KQ does this to extreme heat? no f'n way.
99, 10 10, 9 10s, QJs all we beat here is a random bluff. good fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

I called, he flipped over 99 for bottom set. Once again, I proved to be the bigger donk
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

once u threebet him its tough to fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

Seems like this is a good fold to make if you're right about the TAG label, and if you're image is similar. I don't think he'd push like that with less than a set. Then there's the likelihood of the QJ for the straight. Basically, I think you have to go with your read on the player and lay it down.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

i'd call. drawy flop. slightly connected flop but his line can be alot of hands you're ahead of once you raise, you have like what over 1/2 your stack in in a hand where villain's line isn't very strong and were he can have alot of worse hands.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

The real question is if he plays KQ this way. If he does, you have enough equity to call. If not, this is a fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?

I don't know if I could find a fold in this size pot and the majority of players at this level won't lead QJ here. I really can't find a fold with this line.
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