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Old 11-12-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

Always raising Third may give you misleading information. With three wheel cards, he can't be a huge favorite until there's more of your board out there, so even if he's perfect he may wait until you think you're "even" to start pounding you, at which point you may be a huge dog.

You won't get stuck in a big pot the way you played it, but with the second nuts I'm raising the river. You made the best hand you could hope for, and if that isn't worth raising, then you should have folded Fifth.

Otherwise, what, you're drawing hoping to make a bluff-catcher?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

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You won't get stuck in a big pot the way you played it, but with the second nuts I'm raising the river.

[/ QUOTE ]Third nuts, actually, but in this case he has bet at every opportunity. Call me a nit, I'm calling.

"Always raising 3rd" is not what I was referring to. Raising when someone is showing a card less than 5 to give them a chance to reraise was what I said. And, yes, they might slow-play. Or not. But if I am going to try a raise for information, I'd rather try it on 3rd. No outcome of the raise is going to trouble me.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

My style would be to never reraise 3rd with a 7 and cards kind of dead against an early position raiser.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

fold 5th, if not there than raise the river.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

probably folding 5th, raising 7th all day everyday
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Razz: raise the river? Fold 5th?

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My style would be to never reraise 3rd with a 7 and cards kind of dead against an early position raiser.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't do it, either. But I'm thinking of trying it out in certain situations to see if it gives me information that might help me make better decisions on later streets. Might not, but that's what learning is about, I guess.
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