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Old 03-05-2007, 07:40 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default another fun pwncall

this is not a joke thread, and i am not leveling you here.

hes 24/18 but this is my first session with him. his button pfr is 30% (i didnt have this stat at the time but i knew it was something absurd). flop AF is 8

i knew i was calling a push if i raised. yes, i have nut high and a gutshot. though meta was actually a slight consideration here because it was around 7am est and the tables were starting to get taggy.

its not exactly a value call but i think i easily have pot odds.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (SB): $98.5
BB: $99
UTG: $215.30
MP: $121.90
BTN: $65.45

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q ($1.5, 5 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 ($8, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font> (btw minor 10s tank here i had to think the hand through), <font color="red">BTN raises all in to $61.95</font>, Hero calls $36.95
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

huh?
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

fwiw this one may be bad whereas the other thread last night i am confident was good
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:50 PM
OtZman OtZman is offline
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

If villain has an A we're 18% to win, while we have to pay 39% of the pot to call the 3bet. (please correct me if I've miscalculated, I'm tired)

I'd fold to villains bet (this might be weak), and definitely to the 3bet.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

I like the c/raise, the call is puke though...c/ring the flop and folding to a push is metagame enough- no need to blow another 40BBs.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:55 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

i obv have him on a much wider range than an ace. and note that against anything except sets and QQ-KK and Ax i have more than enough equity to call.

another option is to fold the flop. i dont like this option. might as well fold preflop (another bad option against this guys btn opening range)

another option is to raise/fold to 3bet. i dont like that option either, his flop aggression is through the roof. (again i didnt have a stat but i was paying close enough attn to notice) i def think he is happy to get allin with any draw and lots of pairs including AK/AQ tho
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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fold on flop
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:12 PM
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I might fold in all 3 possible spots. :-)
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

Without regard of the results of this hand, I think you're just throwing money away here and I believe that doing this for "metagame" reasons in 100NL (and probably everywhere else) is pretty silly.
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: another fun pwncall

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"metagame" reasons in 100NL (and probably everywhere else) is pretty silly

[/ QUOTE ]taken from my mouth, im a strong opponent of most applications of meta in ssnl. it was just a small side effect. for the remainder of my session it was hardly relevant at all.
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