Big call against maniac?

markuisis · #1 10-18-2007, 07:11 PM

Here are some hands which illustrate the type of player villain is.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $270.10
MP: $33.95
CO(villain): $96.50
BTN: $212.50
SB: $207.65
Hero (BB): $101.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $5, BTN raises to $15, CO raises to $30, BTN calls $15

Turn: ($68.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $63 and is All-In, BTN calls $63

River: ($194.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $194.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $191.50 (+$95 NET)
BTN showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$96.50 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $168.60
BTN: $45.20
SB(villain): $170.30
BB: $251.05
UTG: $149.80
Hero (MP): $114.35

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
2 folds, CO calls $1, BTN folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $7, CO raises to $14, SB raises to $25, CO raises to $36, SB folds

Results: $61 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO mucked and WON $58 (+$28 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $209.20
SB: $44.20
BB(villain): $227.65
UTG: $249.55
MP: $148.30
Hero (CO): $111.70

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, Hero folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: ($3.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB bets $3, MP folds, BTN raises to $6, BB calls $3

River: ($15.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $10, BTN calls $10

Results: $35.50 Pot ($1.75 Rake)
BTN showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Sixes) and WON $33.75 (+$16.75 NET)
BB showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$17 NET)

So now the hand, i'll give my thoughts after

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $196.60
CO: $45.20
BTN: $140.30
SB: $250.05
BB: $149.80
Hero (UTG): $114.35

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($65.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $45, Hero raises to $82.35 and is All-In, BTN calls $37.35

River: ($230.20) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $230.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Sevens) and WON $227.20 (+$112.85 NET)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Nines) and LOST (-$114.35 NET)

I strongly considered 4 betting pf as his 3 betting range was def very wide but then id be turning my hand into a bluff IMO since although he was def a maniac,
he didnt seem ridiculously loose. Flop play is same as pf, i coudlve reraised and commited myself but again id be turning my hand into a bluff, so i opted
to call and c/shove almost any turn knowing his range is wide open here. When he makes that bet on the turn, i felt like there was no way he had a 7 or a 9
betting that big and i dont know that he always bets his overpairs on such a bad turn, anyways is this a muck? Do some muck the flop? cause calling flop without planning to call turn against this guy is pretty retarded IMO