Taj floor decision 2/5 nl

[dudemanjack]

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I realize its more fun to think that the raise is $63 because it is just over half of $125 (which is also the wrong number to look at because you have to subtract the $2 big blind to get the net raise). But the raise was actually $73.

Carry on.

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This action wasn't pre-flop. The level of the blinds are irrelevant.

[budblown]

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KITN for dealer for not running the game properly.

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Yeah, 11 people at the table, nobody notices the problem until it's too late...but let's blame the dealer.


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Well, last time I checked the dealer was the only one that was being paid to maintain the accuracy and legitimacy of the game, so yea, I would say that it is the dealer's fault.

[slik]

Guess I can't add either. But yea, 73>63 so it doesn't matter here.

[RR]

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KITN for dealer for not running the game properly.

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Yeah, 11 people at the table, nobody notices the problem until it's too late...but let's blame the dealer.


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Well, last time I checked the dealer was the only one that was being paid to maintain the accuracy and legitimacy of the game, so yea, I would say that it is the dealer's fault.

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The dealer's job is to deal the cards and call the floor if there is a dispute. I would say the dealer should keep his mouth shut if a pot is heads up (heads up on the side counts as heads up) and the two players involved want to bet their money. It would appear the dealer is the only one that got it right. But hey, let's blame the dealer because he is the one sitting there that isn't allowed to defend themselves.

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KITN for dealer for not running the game properly.

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Yeah, 11 people at the table, nobody notices the problem until it's too late...but let's blame the dealer.


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Well, last time I checked the dealer was the only one that was being paid to maintain the accuracy and legitimacy of the game, so yea, I would say that it is the dealer's fault.

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The dealer's job is to deal the cards and call the floor if there is a dispute. I would say the dealer should keep his mouth shut if a pot is heads up (heads up on the side counts as heads up) and the two players involved want to bet their money. It would appear the dealer is the only one that got it right. But hey, let's blame the dealer because he is the one sitting there that isn't allowed to defend themselves.

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I'm sorry, but am I wrong in my opinion that the dealer's job is to run the game properly?

I agree that the money should have went into the pot since the two players heads up wanted to put all their money in, my point was the dealer should have taken the time to make sure that a raise is allowed in that situation (which it wasn't). If the dealer had done that, they obviously would have got all the money in on the river anyways and there wouldn't even be this discussion.

[mo42nyy]

the dealer should know the rule and not have dealt the river and he mistake cost someone 600 dollars which doesnt suprise me since I had one good dealer in 3 days.

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the dealer should know the rule and not have dealt the river and he mistake cost someone 600 dollars which doesnt suprise me since I had one good dealer in 3 days.

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He didn't make a mistake and a poor decision by the floor cost someone $600. If there are two players left and they want to bet that is their business. The dealer interfering in the player's business would have been a mistake.

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I'm sorry, but am I wrong in my opinion that the dealer's job is to run the game properly?


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It depends on the room. I would say absolutely not if the players are allowed to tell the dealer to STFU. I know when I was dealing I was once "written up" for answering "it's up to you" when a player asked "why the f are you looking at me?" The player called for the floor and I was instructed by the floor not to look at the players. This took place in the top section of a well known casino.

[atrainpsu]

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The dealer immediatly burns and turns a river blank and is ready to push the entire pot to the asian when somebody says that the all in shouldnt have been allowed (which delights the stripper)

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How about kicking this person in the nuts, for speaking up after the action is complete and the hands are tabled?


Also if this was the correct ruling, someone could illegally move-in to isolate. If they get called, just speak up and say "Wait, that bet wasnt legal...blah, blah" and just like that you dont have to make the bet.

[the machine]

id let the bet stand here. action was offered and was accepted. only chips that were involved in the bet were chips on hte table. id let it stand