Easy fold with overpair?

Flyckten · #1 11-08-2007, 05:37 AM

FI is playing 20/15 over 300 hands. Haven't seen him do this before, since I belive he will 3-bet QQ+. I guess this is screaming set and is a easy laydown?
I think he would see me as pretty standard TAG.

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($101.00)
CO ($85.00)
Button ($140.74)
SB ($71.96)
BB ($8.50)
UTG ($54.23)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6.1, Button raises to $19, Hero calls $12.90.

Turn: ($46.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $28, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $74.50

carnivalhobo · #2 11-08-2007, 05:45 AM

youve never seen him raise the flop and bet the turn?

i think id shove the turn.

cs3 · #3 11-08-2007, 05:46 AM

i dont understand why you called the flop if you planned to c/f the turn here, because hes ALWAYS firing again on the turn f you check no matter what he has, adn no matter what card falls.

so either fold the flop or ch/rai on turn.
but folding the flop is best, especially if hes never raised a dry flop like that before

Indomitus · #4 11-08-2007, 06:19 AM

CS3 can u eplain the idea of c/r turn?wouldn't be bet the turn and fold to reraise cheaper for us here?and what would u do if turn was Q,K or A?

cs3 · #5 11-08-2007, 06:25 AM

i meant as played...
since you called the flop and then checked the turn it should be to ch/r all in.

but ya, i can see merit in b/f on turn for like $30 as well

also A,K,Q shouldnt really be scare cards because hes not likely to be raising just 2 overs on the flop

traz · #6 11-08-2007, 12:20 PM

if I call the flop and that turn card falls, I'd crai. If I'm not willing to do that then I'd fold the flop

theplux · #7 11-08-2007, 12:24 PM

any idea on his CC% that helps a lot. and his stats. I cant say if crai turn is good here since weve no infos.

Flyckten · #8 11-09-2007, 06:53 AM

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i meant as played...
since you called the flop and then checked the turn it should be to ch/r all in.

but ya, i can see merit in b/f on turn for like $30 as well

also A,K,Q shouldnt really be scare cards because hes not likely to be raising just 2 overs on the flop

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What kind of range can you put him on that I beat if he probally doesn't have 2 overs? TT has me beat on turn, 99 perhaps? I really can't put him on some [censored] like A9. Can't really see what I beat here.

Folding flop seems tightish but I guess against this FI it seems more reasonable then my play.

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any idea on his CC% that helps a lot. and his stats. I cant say if crai turn is good here since weve no infos.

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Can't seem to find that stat in pt, isn't listed in the "more detailed" section. Though I'm playing at prima with miniview so I can't use list stats anyway. Usefull stat to have visable?

Nick Royale · #9 11-09-2007, 07:08 AM

Too dry board to get stacks in. Fold flop.

Flyckten · #10 11-09-2007, 07:15 AM

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youve never seen him raise the flop and bet the turn?

i think id shove the turn.

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Never seen him coldcall my raise then raise on flop.