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Old 02-04-2007, 05:55 PM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default I\'ve lost my cahones!!

We are $80 deep at NL50. Villain is 24/12/2.3 over a big sample and is a meow chow abc run of the mill tag. Could be uNL 2p2 even.

What do you say? Am I teh giant Vag? I think the initial raise was a little small.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $18</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $12 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $13
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

Probably. What are the stacks?
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

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We are $80 deep at NL50.

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Old 02-04-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

Does he have a read on you? What's your image at the table? I feel like I would at least call, and see a flop. Folding preflop with kings makes me feel icky, even against a TAG.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

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We are $80 deep at NL50.

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Ack, sorry.
Re-raise should have been bigger. I don't think I could lay it down. I'd really have to have a feel for the table to be sure they had AA.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:07 PM
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Does he have a read on you? What's your image at the table? I feel like I would at least call, and see a flop. Folding preflop with kings makes me feel icky, even against a TAG.

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My image is really tight, ive been attacking the button but I am totally behaving myself. About 19vpip I would say.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

A post explaining the math behind this exact scenario was just made, which basically says never make this fold preflop. I can understand why you are making this laydown but I'd shove personally just because I refuse to fold KK preflop, particularly at uNL. You just see QQ or JJ here too often to fold this at these stakes.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:10 PM
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A post explaining the math behind this exact scenario was just made, which basically says never make this fold preflop. I can understand why you are making this laydown but I'd shove personally just because I refuse to fold KK preflop, particularly at uNL.

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Link?
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:11 PM
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve lost my cahones!!

Never underestimate the ability of your opponents to ignore image and fall back to the basic "I have QQ against the BB, I'm golden!"

I don't fold this here and get stacked if he has AA. &lt;shrug&gt;
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