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Old 09-21-2007, 02:31 PM
Tib Tib is offline
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Default 50NL to go or not to go ?

Vilain is 19/11/3

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $195.91
BB: $49.25
UTG: $40.15
CO: $50.11
BTN: $93.36

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($24.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $183.91</font>


good or not ?
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

This looks ok, since folding to his preflop raise is probably out of the question. You can't fold the flop. calling isn't bad either. if the board pairs u can get away easy. preflop u might consider just calling.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

Any reads on BTN?
I would just fold this PF.

FLOP: You are both deep and I don't like it.(I could be weak tight)
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

getting 2.6 to 1 is pretty decent w/ FD and a GS. Villain isn't folding his AA/KK, or AK. No reason to raise, like this. We have plenty of outs, and its a 4 bet pot. He isn't folding much (jj and QQ if he 4 bets with those). I like a call on the flop and c/f un-improved on the turn.

Dbitel had a great analysis of combo draws in one of his videos. The point was, they aren't folding TP here EVER. So this play is bad given his range and flop texture.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

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Any reads on BTN?
I would just fold this PF.

FLOP: You are both deep and I don't like it.(I could be weak tight)

[/ QUOTE ]

EDIT : FOLD PF when he 4bets you
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

I dont like folding pf. Theres a really good chance your dominated but your both deep and with the pretty big pot pf youi have a decent chance of stacking him if u nail the flop and you shouldnt have a problem getting away from the hand if you dont.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

Standard both PF and flop. I mean.. he min 4bet, we already put in 7, and we are 200 deep.

I like flop. Ton of fold equity, NFD, straight draw. Unless he got KK, we are pretty much flipping. I get it in here all the time. This is the flop we were looking for when 3betting &amp; calling 4bet preflop.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

Yeah, you really can't fold pf and I play this the same way (pf). On the flop I think it's close and I don't think either way you play it (calling or c/rai) is that bad. I don't think you have a lot of FE though. The only hands he'd fold are JJ/QQ and he's calling w/AA/KK/AK.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

Calling PF is questionable even with deepstacks and the good odds being given. I think it's hugely rio and villain is likely to get away from his hand unless he has us crushed, plus we're oop.

I don't think there's any FE on the flop, so I'm not a fan of the raise.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 50NL to go or not to go ?

you have close to 0 FE on the flop. I'd just call hoping to hit (most likely stacking him) and if I don't - I'm ok with just folding to the inevitable all-in on the turn.
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