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Old 08-17-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Underhanded Tactic Used in a 10/20 NL game, Please Discuss.

he was mad at me or something what a babyyy
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:32 AM
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it is against the rules. you are cheating. you clearly do not care about that either. why are you bothering to ask this forum about it? if you want to, then continue doing it. you may eventually meet with consequences, or you may not. why the f should we care?

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Is it against the rules or just against the rules of etiquette? Dropping the F-bomb is "against the rules" at the WSOP, but that isn't considered cheating. It generally carries a warning and then a time-out penalty, but it's also not enforced 100%. People break that rule all the time. Is stating your opinion about a hand as it happens not more in line with this than it is with cheating? Cheating generally involves something clandestine and unknown to the players, whereas all I did was very audibly state my opinion about a hand. I also gained no direct monetary benefit from this, so I don't think it would be considered cheating according to the statutes of most gaming jurisdictions.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:43 AM
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and the boot smashing your face into it will make you think twice about doing it again. You will also be getting about what you deserve.

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Uh yeah do this at the wrong table or to the wrong person and your gonna get [censored] up. I know that sounds like an over-reaction but in all honesty if you continue this you deserve it.

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If you did this to me I wouldnt say a word, but make sure I follow you into the parking lot for a discussion. Or the bathroom. Somewhere where there's no cameras.

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I really appreciate all of the internet tough-guyism coming out in this thread, but I have yet to have my ass kicked by a poker player and I don't think it's ever going to happen. Would I pull this move if Floyd Mayweather Jr. were the villain? No, of course not. Would I pull this move if some poker geek with a math degree who complains about girl troubles on BBV4Life were the villain? You bet.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:43 AM
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it is against the rules. you are cheating. you clearly do not care about that either. why are you bothering to ask this forum about it? if you want to, then continue doing it. you may eventually meet with consequences, or you may not. why the f should we care?

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Is it against the rules or just against the rules of etiquette? Dropping the F-bomb is "against the rules"


at the WSOP, but that isn't considered cheating. It generally carries a warning and then a time-out penalty, but it's also not enforced 100%. People break that rule all the time. Is stating your opinion about a hand as it happens not more in line with this than it is with cheating? Cheating generally involves something clandestine and unknown to the players, whereas all I did was very audibly state my opinion about a hand. I also gained no direct monetary benefit from this, so I don't think it would be considered cheating according to the statutes of most gaming jurisdictions.

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I guess I don't really believe this but my initial feeling was that you deserve to be shot in the head.

And the fact that you tried a gangsta "I'm all 'bout the money" defense when you only play 10/20 frankly makes it even worse.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:44 AM
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you intentionally cheated and weren't punished. congrats, and gfy
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:48 AM
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it is against the rules. you are cheating. you clearly do not care about that either. why are you bothering to ask this forum about it? if you want to, then continue doing it. you may eventually meet with consequences, or you may not. why the f should we care?

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Is it against the rules or just against the rules of etiquette? Dropping the F-bomb is "against the rules" at the WSOP, but that isn't considered cheating. It generally carries a warning and then a time-out penalty, but it's also not enforced 100%. People break that rule all the time. Is stating your opinion about a hand as it happens not more in line with this than it is with cheating? Cheating generally involves something clandestine and unknown to the players, whereas all I did was very audibly state my opinion about a hand. I also gained no direct monetary benefit from this, so I don't think it would be considered cheating according to the statutes of most gaming jurisdictions.

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It's against the rules of the casino. In the same sense that smoking is, or string-betting.

Obviously, you don't care. That's fine. But you ARE going to get [censored] up in a parking lot someday. If you are cool with:

a) being a [censored]
b) getting [censored] up

go with it.

Also, it might occur to you that being an ass isn't a very good long-term strategy. There are plenty of regs that you'll have to play with. If you are better then them, it's better for you if they don't hate you.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:52 AM
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thank god for the 2nd amendment.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:59 AM
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Is it against the rules or just against the rules of etiquette?

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one player to a hand. this is not merely etiquette. you have knowledge of information the other players do not possess, so you are not allowed to influence the play of a hand you're not involved in. this should not be difficult to understand.

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Is stating your opinion about a hand as it happens not more in line with this than it is with cheating? Cheating generally involves something clandestine and unknown to the players, whereas all I did was very audibly state my opinion about a hand.

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look, you cheated, you are a cheater, and you clearly stated in this thread that you intend to continue to cheat as long as you think you can get away with it. ok, good for you. you can rationalize anything you want. like i said earlier: why are you bothering to ask this forum about it? why the f should we care? we already know there are plenty of cheats and scumbags in the poker world, you're just one of many.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:59 AM
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It's against the rules of the casino. In the same sense that smoking is, or string-betting.

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Neither of these is cheating. Helping another player play his hand is.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:00 AM
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Every casino I've ever seen has a "one player per hand" rule.

You violated that in a major way and generated more ill will than any temporary +ev you received for the next hour.

I guarantee that word will get around as to what you did and you are going to have a target on your back for as long as you play at that casino.
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