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#1
07-08-2007, 07:39 AM
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Deer in the headlights
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
hero (SB): $73.40 BB: $64.25 UTG: $14.75 CO: $116.85 BTN: $68.85 Preflop: hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K  (5 Players)UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">hero raises to $5.50</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9.50</font>, hero calls $4.00 Flop: ($20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9  J (2 Players)hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $6.50</font>, hero calls $6.50 Turn: ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 J 6 (2 Players)hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $10.00</font>, hero calls $10.00 River: ($53) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 J 6 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $25.00</font>, hero calls $25.00 Pot Size: $103.00 Villain is a giant donk and 31/2/3 after 100 hands, really aggro and laggy but pf usually just calls any raise, has never re-raised at all. I was very surprised when I got 4 betted and looking at his stats I suddenly got rather worried and wasn't quite sure what to do, any excuse for my passiveness? 
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#3
07-08-2007, 08:10 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
If villain you know is aggro and will fire down here, then soak it up. you only fear AA and JJ; villain will fire down like this with QQ and the last KK combo also, as well as maybe AK if they think they can "play you off the hand".
If you push back anywhere you may end up just folding out worse and getting looked up by only AA and sets.
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#4
07-08-2007, 08:47 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
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If villain you know is aggro and will fire down here, then soak it up. you only fear AA and JJ; villain will fire down like this with QQ and the last KK combo also, as well as maybe AK if they think they can "play you off the hand". If you push back anywhere you may end up just folding out worse and getting looked up by only AA and sets. [/ QUOTE ] Initially I disagreed with this but I think it's a pretty good course here - I first thought of leading into him on the turn for about $18 but that's just getting rid of QQ which it looks ultra likely that he has.
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#5
07-08-2007, 08:58 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
What about his post flop bets? They seem rather small, is that normal for this villain? If its not i would push the river, putting him on a worse hand. I mean he would bet one street big right if he has AA or JJ?
And i would bet out the flop and see what he does. And usually against donks ill just push post flop, he can do this with JJ QQ and TT Ak and AQ, and 100 hands isnt a big sample.
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#6
07-08-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
On a side note, once all this info is out there should hero have shoved behind the $25 river bet for value? Villain has bet 1/3 pot on flop and turn and now he's up to half pot on the river, but he has played this hand pretty scared IMO- what can he be scared of from his point of view, Jacks if he has Aces, Aces if he has Kings, but then why does his hand suddenly look better to him on the river if he has Queens?
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#7
07-08-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
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On a side note, once all this info is out there should hero have shoved behind the $25 river bet for value? Villain has bet 1/3 pot on flop and turn and now he's up to half pot on the river, but he has played this hand pretty scared IMO- what can he be scared of from his point of view, Jacks if he has Aces, Aces if he has Kings, but then why does his hand suddenly look better to him on the river if he has Queens? [/ QUOTE ] maybe because hero didnt show any strenght either? He thinks his queens or tens or something are good.
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#8
07-08-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
just get it in there pf... your not that deep and if he's got aces you can spike a king anyway
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#9
07-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
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just get it in there pf... your not that deep and if he's got aces you can spike a king anyway [/ QUOTE ] yeah, a good player doesn't use their postflop skills anyway.
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#10
07-08-2007, 12:11 PM
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Re: Deer in the headlights
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[ QUOTE ] just get it in there pf... your not that deep and if he's got aces you can spike a king anyway [/ QUOTE ] yeah, a good player doesn't use their postflop skills anyway. [/ QUOTE ] wtf? we have KK not AQ get it in pf! as played push flop as played push turn, get it in somehwere please!!
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