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Old 11-29-2007, 03:21 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Would you consider laying this down?

Your SPR on the flop is 4.66 and you have a monster hand. Bet more on the flop, then when it comes back to you it's a pretty easy all in.

You're either a big favorite or a dog with decent odds against a straight.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:41 PM
Man of Means Man of Means is offline
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Default Re: Would you consider laying this down?

oh wait i did the math wrong. Hero gets 605:310 to call and MP is often putting in another 210, making it effectively 815:310. Even against AQ this is a profitable situation. Against a slightly wider range it's a fist pump call. Clickety clank.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Would you consider laying this down?

Assuming all parties get the money in here,against AQ AND 2pr/lower set the equity for KK here is like 25-26%. But that's quite the parlay to convince yourself to fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:05 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Would you consider laying this down?

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Assuming all parties get the money in here,against AQ AND 2pr/lower set the equity for KK here is like 25-26%. But that's quite the parlay to convince yourself to fold.

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I don't think it's out of the question at all. But we have very close to the odds even in that worst-case scenario, and sometimes UTG's monster (and he most likely has a very strong hand or possibly a huge draw, I think) is going to be JJ or TT and the third player won't have the straight either.

I guess you can count me among the "some level of hesitation" crowd, though, because although I think Hero should call, I think this is a far less profitable situation for a flopped set (especially in a loose live game, where sets will tend to get paid off well on far less scary boards than this one) than most flopped-set situations.
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