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Old 11-21-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: three of a kind, not bad: Fill In the Blanks

They both check to me, and I <u>bet</u> intending to <u>3-bet</u> if <u>lag raises</u>, and <u>call</u> if <u>utg raises</u>.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:03 AM
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fwiw: I couldn't fold to a c/r in a pot this big but I would NEVER 3-bet unless the lag is a total moron
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:17 AM
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fwiw: I couldn't fold to a c/r in a pot this big but I would NEVER 3-bet unless the lag is a total moron

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what can lag have on the river that beats us? it's really unlikely he has a straight or a set based on the action in previous streets so if he does c/r it's most likely a hand like JT/J9.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:26 AM
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no, it is very likely for him to have the straight given the previous action, maybe even with a spade draw, which would make quite a few combos possible

the lag would def 3-bet the turn with top set and I'm pretty sure 3 would go in with middle set as well

jacks for the lag seems unlikely given his preflop cc, which makes a rivered set unlikely as well

only 3 type of hands make sense:
- a rivered top two with JT (J9 seems quite unlikely to me given the flop action) but in my experience most players lead out with such a hand on the river instead of c/r'ing
- a rivered straight, possibly in combination with a spade draw, which makes up for a lot of combos
- a total bluff after a missed draw, which would be completely retarded against a player like PJ

add the slight possibility of a higher set and value 3-betting a cr is suicide

+++EDIT+++ and I didn't even mention the obvious fact that river cr's are way more often a strong hand than a bluff
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