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#41
08-09-2007, 04:50 PM
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Re: How do the non AC\'s rate this idea?
Not in love with the idea for a variety of reasons, but I do like the concept of trying to make the money seem more tangible - and less like the credit card phenomenon on steroids. Perhaps paychecks should have Federal Income Tax broken out to tax per agency / program. People bitch about taxes as whole, but actually knowing how much money they have personally given to some ridiculous endeavor might shake up the voter a little bit.
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#42
08-09-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: How do the non AC\'s rate this idea?
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[ QUOTE ] I heard a snippet on the radio the other day that I havent had time to confirm, but supposedly Nancy Pelosi is the single biggest beneficiary of the pork that has been stuffed into bills in this Congress. Transparency my black a$$. [/ QUOTE ]Shouldnt you at least check to see if anyone else besides rightwing radio claims this as fact before you get so loose with your black tushy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Just a thought [ QUOTE ] The House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, has obtained about $63 million worth of projects, most of them in or near her district in San Francisco. But Ms. Pelosi was overshadowed by Representative John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania, chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense, who obtained $163 million in pet projects — more than anyone else in Congress and more than his own previous record of about $100 million. The Democratic totals are less than half the record set by Republicans when they controlled Congress in 2005, but they are far higher than the levels just 10 years ago... By any measure, the volume of earmarks in spending bills has exploded in the past decade, from about 3,000 in 1996 to almost 16,000 in 2005.... [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I dont listen to "right wing radio". Straight news or music, and that was on the local CBS affiliate.
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#43
08-09-2007, 04:59 PM
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Re: How do the non AC\'s rate this idea?
BTW, your quote is about earmarks for constituencies. What the report I heard said was that she led in earmarks where she would personally benefit through her and her husbands holdings.
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#44
08-09-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: How do the non AC\'s rate this idea?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Any "real" social democrat (i.e. someone who actually thinks that the programs are worth funding with their own money, not just everyone else's money) would support such a program [/ QUOTE ] how do you define social democracy? [/ QUOTE ] A democratic state where taxes are collected and redistributed through state programs in an attempt to create a better society? [/ QUOTE ] How does this differ from just "democracy"? [/ QUOTE ] The "social" in the front indicates that the majority has voted for the tax/programs platform (i.e. socialism). [/ QUOTE ] Ah, but if I vote for tax/programs platform that supports massive military, more prisons, war on drugs, education reform, post offices, and the like, then I am not a "social democrat"? So basically a "social democrat" is any voter in a democracy who votes for programs that YOU don't support.
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