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08-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist
The proposal that taxation != theft;
Well, theft is an act. Just like murder or rape is. Taxation is probably better described as extortion. Because when you do not oblige to the wants of the people with the power then they will use this power to make you pay up. But more specifically, As an anarcho-capitalist and someone who believes in universal morality and negative rights.. ..it's not so much writing a letter to someone that I have a problem with. Nor is it spendin money that you have acquired. The problem I have is with immoral acts. Meaning that human beings come to someone's house and kidnap them and drag them off to a dungeon or cage. And the people that they do this to did not pose a threat to the ones doing this to them. Nor did they pose a threat to anyone else. All that happened was that they did not pay certain amounts of money to other people that thought they had a right to it. AND they thought that they have the right to subdue other people when they don't comply. Not with an angry letter or with putting them on a blacklist or casting them out of their organization of security. No, by physically and mentally harming them. To me that is a clear case of violent aggression which has absolutely nothing to do with active self-defense. To conclude: only when you look at the individual acts is when the morality of the situation becomes clear. What statists and collectivists always try to do is to hide the individual acts ("just doing my job", "it's the law", "it's what the people want", "it's for the common good", "we know what's best for you", etc.). 
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08-22-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist
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Yep. [/ QUOTE ] Why don't more people get this? I know lack of interest in anything political is a large chunk of America. The other thing I notice (mostly by the Hollywood crowd) but a large portion of left leaning people is the use of the word "feel". I feel this, I feel that, How do you feel about blah... which leads me to believe that the outcome is less important than the action that makes them "feel" good about what they are trying to accomplish. Nobody enjoys seeing people starve, people lose their homes, live in rat infested slums. But when you show them that a government will extort from people who have more than that, where does the incentive go to improve your situation? On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending. Now repubs are "pro lifers" and other elements of the religious voting block. I have no interest in trying to limit adult porn, sex toys, abortion, buttsecks between consenting adults and the rest of the morality police agenda. So here I sit, knowing I disagree with almost everything left, ecspecially in fiscal matters. Not really liking the current right, as they have been cowardly in almost every way, because the left calls them mean spirited, racist, anti poor, anti elderly, draconian cutting, tax cutters for the rich. Why are there not 9 Ron pauls running on the repub ticket? He epitomizes what the repubs used to say they stood for. What am I to do? Not trying to hijack this thread... just ranting a bit. Any thoughts on my original question of why more people dont get the theory of taxation being extortion?
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#8
08-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist
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[ QUOTE ] On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending. [/ QUOTE ] When do you think these days ended? [/ QUOTE ] In actuality... not long after Lincoln.... although there have been sporadic pushes back towards this, but taxes and spending have gone so far up its like pissing into the wind.
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08-22-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending. [/ QUOTE ] When do you think these days ended? [/ QUOTE ] In actuality... not long after Lincoln.... although there have been sporadic pushes back towards this, but taxes and spending have gone so far up its like pissing into the wind. [/ QUOTE ] Even Jefferson exceeded his constitutionally granted powers once president.
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