Facing fair sized river bet w/ PP

[LOwrestling2001]

New table no reads:
Fold here? Also, do we just C/C the turn since we picked up an OESD but there's less FE on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($84.80)
UTG ($45.50)
MP ($20.15)
Hero ($50.45)
Button ($53.90)
SB ($53.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($12.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6.5</font>, Hero calls $6.50.

River: ($25.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $25.75

[CyberianBull]

I would raise this flop to like $9-ish for value/info, and probably fold to a shove - 'cause best case scenario is he has AKs and it's still a coin flip.

[YanP]

i raise flop too, i call the river in a flash. Did you think the T helped? i don't

[Milky]

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i raise flop too, i call the river in a flash. Did you think the T helped? i don't

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What do we beat by the river that villain is betting all 3 streets with? Unimproved AK/AQ mostly... If villain is super aggro then maybe I'd call but I'd probably fold. However I agree that you need to raise flop. It looks like you're being taken to value town from a higher pair here...

[LOwrestling2001]

yea those were my thoughts at the river, a bigger pair taking me to town =(. for those who say raise the flop for value. what about this hand?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD

i understand 200nl is a little different, but even folks say flat call that flop against an unknown utg raiser.

[Nemesis69]

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yea those were my thoughts at the river, a bigger pair taking me to town =(. for those who say raise the flop for value. what about this hand?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD

i understand 200nl is a LOT different, but even folks say flat call that flop against an unknown utg raiser.

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