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11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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[ QUOTE ] As such, i'd c/c and c/f turn ui. [/ QUOTE ] ever visit the site www.lolweaktightnitaments.com? [/ QUOTE ] Ever visit www.imamassivedbag.com? [censored] off. I love how this guy hasn't 3-bet ONE time, and now he's got AK enough of the time to justify our equity when he snap calls our check-shove. Oh, by the way - [censored] off. 
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#2
11-28-2007, 11:04 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
I'm not HSNL but quick thought. Equity is awesome vs his range and usually w/ 10 outs its OMG jam but only a hand like this doing a crai quick math says he needs to fold ~30% of the time to make it correct. I doubt for a guy that has never 3bet yet AK makes up a third of his range and hes prob never folding JJ+.
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#3
11-28-2007, 11:36 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
preflop I was thinking JJ+, AK. On the flop when he pounded a PSB at the pot I strongly felt that AK was on the lower part of his range and I had next to zero fold equity. Against players with wider 3b ranges, I'd obv just c/r commit or jam whichever I'm in the mood to do at the time.
So figuring I had no fold equity I check/called the flop. Turn was another 4. I checked and he shoved. I folded.
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#4
11-28-2007, 11:49 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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preflop I was thinking JJ+, AK. On the flop when he pounded a PSB at the pot I strongly felt that AK was on the lower part of his range and I had next to zero fold equity. Against players with wider 3b ranges, I'd obv just c/r commit or jam whichever I'm in the mood to do at the time. [ QUOTE ] So figuring I had no fold equity I check/called the flop. Turn was another 4. I checked and he shoved. I folded. [/ QUOTE ] Quote: As such, i'd c/c and c/f turn ui. ever visit the site www.lolweaktightnitaments.com? [/ QUOTE ]
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#5
11-28-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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preflop I was thinking JJ+, AK. On the flop when he pounded a PSB at the pot I strongly felt that AK was on the lower part of his range and I had next to zero fold equity. Against players with wider 3b ranges, I'd obv just c/r commit or jam whichever I'm in the mood to do at the time. So figuring I had no fold equity I check/called the flop. Turn was another 4. I checked and he shoved. I folded. [/ QUOTE ] I cried inside [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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#6
11-28-2007, 11:40 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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I'm not HSNL but quick thought. Equity is awesome vs his range and usually w/ 10 outs its OMG jam but only a hand like this doing a crai quick math says he needs to fold ~30% of the time to make it correct. I doubt for a guy that has never 3bet yet AK makes up a third of his range and hes prob never folding JJ+. [/ QUOTE ] Can you show the math where he has to fold more than 30%? I got a number much smaller than this.
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#7
11-28-2007, 11:49 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
hek, you have 40% equity if he NEVER has AK. just get it in, please.
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#8
11-29-2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not HSNL but quick thought. Equity is awesome vs his range and usually w/ 10 outs its OMG jam but only a hand like this doing a crai quick math says he needs to fold ~30% of the time to make it correct. I doubt for a guy that has never 3bet yet AK makes up a third of his range and hes prob never folding JJ+. [/ QUOTE ] Can you show the math where he has to fold more than 30%? I got a number much smaller than this. [/ QUOTE ] i havent done any math for this but i would be shocked if it were that high(30%).
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#9
11-29-2007, 12:55 AM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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Can you show the math where he has to fold more than 30%? I got a number much smaller than this. [/ QUOTE ] Could be wrong and is slight dif w/ blinds but Pot 12k if both ai * 40% eq = 4.8k 5500 more - 4800 = 700 700 to win 1075+1050
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#10
11-29-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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[ QUOTE ] Can you show the math where he has to fold more than 30%? I got a number much smaller than this. [/ QUOTE ] Could be wrong and is slight dif w/ blinds but Pot 12k if both ai * 40% eq = 4.8k 5500 more - 4800 = 700 700 to win 1075+1050 [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm, you might be right but I don't want to confuse myself with more equations. Below is my calculation. Let me know if I miscalculated [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] If we check-shove and Villain folds, we win 2125. If Villain read Hero's soul, then Hero lose .6 (5500) = -3300 and suck out .4 (6625) = 2650. Total EV for check-shove is -650. 0 = 2125x + (-650)(1-x) ~ x = 23%
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