TheBryce (Freedom25) 1k/2k HU Bankroll Qestion?

[MrGatorade]

Right now TheBryce is playing 1k/2k now on FTP. What kind of bankroll do you need to play this high online and HU for that matter.

-Crazy Mike

[kahntrutahn]

No less than a million if it's your regular game. I'd personally want 2, liquid.

[PartyGirlUK]

One of the dumbest bluffs Ive ever seen.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2829097068: Table Harlin (heads up) - $1000/$2000 - Limit Hold'em - 4:36:29 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: Al Raysia ($82,988.50)
Seat 2: Freedom25 ($83,814.50)
Al Raysia posts the small blind of $500
Freedom25 posts the big blind of $1,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Al Raysia raises to $2,000
Freedom25 raises to $3,000
Al Raysia calls $1,000
*** FLOP *** [3c 2s 4h]
Freedom25 bets $1,000
Al Raysia calls $1,000
*** TURN *** [3c 2s 4h] [6c]
Freedom25 bets $2,000
Al Raysia calls $2,000
*** RIVER *** [3c 2s 4h 6c] [Kd]
Freedom25 bets $2,000
Al Raysia raises to $4,000
Freedom25 has 15 seconds left to act
Freedom25 raises to $6,000
Al Raysia raises to $8,000
Freedom25 calls $2,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Al Raysia shows [7s 8c] King Eight high
Freedom25 shows [6h 6s] three of a kind, Sixes
Freedom25 wins the pot ($27,999.50) with three of a kind, Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28,000 | Rake $0.50
Board: [3c 2s 4h 6c Kd]
Seat 1: Al Raysia (small blind) showed [7s 8c] and lost with King Eight high
Seat 2: Freedom25 (big blind) showed [6h 6s] and won ($27,999.50) with three of a kind, Sixes

[kahntrutahn]

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One of the dumbest bluffs Ive ever seen.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2829097068: Table Harlin (heads up) - $1000/$2000 - Limit Hold'em - 4:36:29 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: Al Raysia ($82,988.50)
Seat 2: Freedom25 ($83,814.50)
Al Raysia posts the small blind of $500
Freedom25 posts the big blind of $1,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Al Raysia raises to $2,000
Freedom25 raises to $3,000
Al Raysia calls $1,000
*** FLOP *** [3c 2s 4h]
Freedom25 bets $1,000
Al Raysia calls $1,000
*** TURN *** [3c 2s 4h] [6c]
Freedom25 bets $2,000
Al Raysia calls $2,000
*** RIVER *** [3c 2s 4h 6c] [Kd]
Freedom25 bets $2,000
Al Raysia raises to $4,000
Freedom25 has 15 seconds left to act
Freedom25 raises to $6,000
Al Raysia raises to $8,000
Freedom25 calls $2,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Al Raysia shows [7s 8c] King Eight high
Freedom25 shows [6h 6s] three of a kind, Sixes
Freedom25 wins the pot ($27,999.50) with three of a kind, Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28,000 | Rake $0.50
Board: [3c 2s 4h 6c Kd]
Seat 1: Al Raysia (small blind) showed [7s 8c] and lost with King Eight high
Seat 2: Freedom25 (big blind) showed [6h 6s] and won ($27,999.50) with three of a kind, Sixes

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Must have tilted him some how. I don't think of Al as a fish by any means.

[PartyGirlUK]

Ya I think Al plays pretty decent, that's just from kibitzing tho.

[bicyclekick]

ballllllllla!!!

go bryce!

[baronzeus]

id have no problem playing this with a "bankroll" of 1m. however that means poker bankroll not overall pokerwinnings/assets. like if i withdraw 50K a month that does not factor into my bankroll.

[kahntrutahn]

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id have no problem playing this with a "bankroll" of 1m. however that means poker bankroll not overall pokerwinnings/assets. like if i withdraw 50K a month that does not factor into my bankroll.

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Huge bankroll needed. Losing 200+ BB to a clear fish HAPPENS in HU LHE.

For proof I offer the following images of my stats (at bottom) versus some [censored] that I KNOW I am better than who has been destroying me for 3,000 hands of HU LHE and another 500 hands of 3 handed LHE. ** EDIT ** Pay special attention to W$SD and % of total hands.

[baronzeus]

yeah those stats arent that useful but if hes winning 58% at showdown hes clearly runnin hotter than the sun. the way PT calculates W$SD is done in such a way that HU hands that are split count against your showdown (because of the rake taken out i presume). to give an idea, i recently had a session where I ran W$SD 45 but my opponent ran only 47, meaning they don't entirely offset. in reality, if hes running 58 means you're running like 38 or so i'd guess, which is not very good.

also im running about 41/49 over my last 4K or so hands and +8BB/100, i can only imagine what my wr would be with a w$sd above 50


edit: also post your W$WSF. obv player dependent but these should be close to 50 for each player given a session. pt treats these the same way as w$sd, given that they count against you if you split, but since there are a lot more data points (i.e. of 1000 hands, 700 see a flop, 380 go to showdown) the numbers are much closer to 50%

[kahntrutahn]

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yeah those stats arent that useful but if hes winning 58% at showdown hes clearly runnin hotter than the sun. the way PT calculates W$SD is done in such a way that HU hands that are split count against your showdown (because of the rake taken out i presume). to give an idea, i recently had a session where I ran W$SD 45 but my opponent ran only 47, meaning they don't entirely offset. in reality, if hes running 58 means you're running like 38 or so i'd guess, which is not very good.

also im running about 41/49 over my last 4K or so hands and +8BB/100, i can only imagine what my wr would be with a w$sd above 50


edit: also post your W$WSF. obv player dependent but these should be close to 50 for each player given a session. pt treats these the same way as w$sd, given that they count against you if you split, but since there are a lot more data points (i.e. of 1000 hands, 700 see a flop, 380 go to showdown) the numbers are much closer to 50%

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Look at the frequency with which he hits premium hands. Then look at the absurdly high winrate of those absurdly high hand hits. Lastly, look at how he is winning 84% when going to showdown with ONE PAIR.

I rarely ever turn over a winning hand against this prick.